Dringende nuusbrief vanaf SAJWV

[Vlakvark Soldaat]

DRINGENDE SPESIALE NUUSBRIEF / URGENT SPECIAL NEWSLETTER

12 November 2015

Dear Colleague

This newsletter is deliberately sent to you in English only for the benefit of our English speaking members and the urgency of the matter at stake. I do not want to waste time to have this message translated before it goes out to you
Renewal of Firearm Licenses

In the October newsletter sent to you about two weeks ago I warned that the SAPS will most likely take a different stance on the matter of late applications for the renewal of firearm licenses. This is indeed happening now.
In terms of Section 24 of the Firearms Control Act (No 60 of 2000) an application for the renewal of a license must be made to the Registrar (by handing in such application at your local DFO) “at least 90 days before the date of expiry of the license”

We are aware of the fact that for quite some time now the practice at many of the DFO’s was to indeed accept late applications, process these and have new licenses issued for such firearms.

As I warned about two weeks ago, a new instruction was issued by the Deputy Commissioner Visible Policing on 21 August 2015 (but apparently only distributed last week) that indicates that licenses for which applications are received late should be dealt with as prescribed in Section 28 of the Act. This is followed by an instruction from some of the Provincial Commanders that explicitly spell out what should be done by DFO’s.

Section 28 of the Act prescribes that a firearm license terminates at the expiry date ((Section 28 (1)) and that the Registrar my cancel such license (Section 28 (2)) if the holder of the license did not comply with any provision of the Act. Section 28 (3) requires the holder of the license to be given a notice that he/she may within 30 days submit representations why the license should not be cancelled. The Registrar must then consider such representation and either issue a renewal license or refuse the renewal of the license and direct the owner that the firearm must be disposed of in a prescribed manner.

The owner then has 60 days within which he/she must dispose of the firearm in the way prescribed by the Registrar. If such disposal is not done the firearm must be forfeited to the State and the owner must surrender it as prescribed (Section 28 (5)).

In the instruction sent out by some of the Provincial Commanders it is explicitly stated that the procedure to be followed if a late application for renewal of a firearm is received (please note any application handed in later than the 90 days before the expiry date of the licenses is a late application) the DFO must do the following

1. Complete the Form SAPS 533 (Request to Cancel a Firearm License)
2. Hand to the owner or license holder the notice to inform him/her that he/she may in writing provide representation within 30 days why the license should not be cancelled
3. Complete SAP 86 (a) (The SAPS Checklist to be completed with an application)
4. Submit the completed documentation to the Provincial Office

I have been provided with information from a reasonably reliable source that the intention of the SAPS is to eventually have the majority of these firearms surrendered with the intention to eventually have it destroyed.
There are some of our members who are of the opinion that if you still have your old green licenses, these are still valid and there is no need to renew the new (white card) licenses. This is incorrect. If you renewed your licenses and were issued with the white card licenses, the old green licenses lapsed and are not valid any longer.

I would like to urge any of our members who did not apply in time for the renewal of any firearm license to do so as soon as possible. The instructions to DFO’s as I indicated above may just not yet have been received by all DFO’s. Please hand in your application for the renewal of a license as soon as possible. If you are presented with the notice to submit representation to the Registrar why the license should not be cancelled, please do so as soon as possible and with the strongest motivation possible

I would also like to remind you of the free “licence renewal reminder” service that we offer via the online member administration system. If you register your firearms with the relevant licence expiry dates under the ‘Firearms’ section on your personal SAHGCA profile, we will send you an SMS reminder about the upcoming renewal 100 days before the expiry of the relevant licence.

Dedicated Hunter and Dedicated Sportshooter Status

Dedicated hunters and sportshooters that wish to maintain their status are reminded to submit annual activity reports by the end of October. The first SMS has gone out to those dedicated members who did not comply by reporting the required activities and we are inundated by calls and telefaxes from some of the about 8 000 members who did not comply with the requirements.

The requirements for maintaining dedicated status are as follows:

• Dedicated hunter: any two hunting related activities per annum
• Dedicated sportshooter: any three SAHGCA sportshooting activities per annum of which one may be duty as range officer

We want to keep the number of activity reports that we receive via e-mail and/or fax to the minimum and request members to make use of our online facilities for updating their activity logs. Members can also contact Mart-Marie on 083 2688 622 for assistance on the online members administration system.
Any member that is unable to record his/her activities online can download the dedicated status activity or non-activity report here (look for the ‘Member Forms’ section on the right hand side of the screen). The completed form can be sent by e-mail to dedicated@sahunt.co.za or by fax to 086 522 0218.
Members who did not complete the relevant number of activities must submit a non-activity report. Without any report (activity or non-activity) on record, it will be extremely difficult to retain dedicated status. If you have already received an SMS to inform you that you are compliant, no further action is required.

Yours sincerely

Fred Camphor

SAHGCA Chief Executive Officer

[tripodmvr]

Jy is rats met die plasing. HKGK. Hulle begin nou tawwe tienie speel. Ek moet mooi gaan kyk. Dink ek moet volgende jaar hernu en die 90 dae is wat mens fyn moet dophou.

[Vlakvark Soldaat]

Hahaha, ek slaap in die aand!

Ek seg ook, HKGK! Die intentions word hierbo mooi uitgespel, hulle wil die goed laat vernietig. Finish en klaar!
Maar die issue is, bly hulle binne die 90 dae met uitreiking van die liksens? Ek hoop maar net so.

[andre007]

Ek het hom ook nounet gekry. Dankie vir die plasing. Ek stel maar die rekenaar se dagboek om my te waarsku so 4 maande voor die tyd, dan weet ek dit word betyds gedoen, as die rekenaar nie kon kophou nie het ek al van n spul hernuwings vergeet

[Capt. Yoda]

Ek neem aan al die skiet organisasies wat ons so betaal en deel is van is bewus van die "endaba" wat deur GFSA en al hul maats gereel was

https://www.issafrica.org/events/reduci ... e-solution

The Firearms Control Act is due to be amended next year. Ahead of this process, it is important to assess the impact of South Africa’s gun law to date and the proposed amendments to it.

Gun Free South Africa, together with the African Policing Civilian Oversight Forum (APCOF) and the Institute for Security Studies (ISS), is hosting a seminar to explore whether gun control is the solution to reducing violent crime in South Africa.

Members of parliament’s Police Portfolio Committee have been specifically invited to joint this debate.

Space for this event is limited, so please confirm your attendance.

[Hein22]

Maar die issue is, bly hulle binne die 90 dae met uitreiking van die liksens? Ek hoop maar net so.

Nee hulle doen nie! Ek wag al vanaf Mei vir 'n renewal wat se lisensie in Augustus verval het. Nog niks to nou. 5-6 maande nou al.

[Neels Louw]

Ek vra weer die vraag?

Wat doen GFSA om onwettige wapens vd strate af te kry?

As wapens afgevat (of lisensies onbekombaar) word, gaan hulle pa staan vir die bloed van onskuldige slagoffers?

[Henry]

Maar die issue is, bly hulle binne die 90 dae met uitreiking van die liksens? Ek hoop maar net so.

Nee hulle doen nie! Ek wag al vanaf Mei vir 'n renewal wat se lisensie in Augustus verval het. Nog niks to nou. 5-6 maande nou al.

My hernuwing is al 11 Mei ook ingehandig, en ek wag ook nog steeds. Myne het ook Augustus verval.

[savage(P Coetzer)]

Ek verstaan steeds nie hoekom n lisensie moet verval as mens bevoeg verklaar is om n wapen te besit nie maar ongelukkig het die ding nou n verval datum om. Indien iemand op tyd vir sy hernuwing aansoek gedoen het of doen dan is ek bly vir hom maar as jy laat slaap en dan wil huil het ek min simpatie. Hulle redeneer net dat as jou wapen so belangrik vir jou is hoek laat jy toe dat sy lisensie verval? Dan is hy mos nie so belangrik nie. Hulle doen hulle beste om ons wapens af te neem en deur laat te slaap met so iets maak ons dit vir hulle maklik.

[tripodmvr]

Ek verstaan steeds nie hoekom n lisensie moet verval as mens bevoeg verklaar is om n wapen te besit nie maar ongelukkig het die ding nou n verval datum om. Indien iemand op tyd vir sy hernuwing aansoek gedoen het of doen dan is ek bly vir hom maar as jy laat slaap en dan wil huil het ek min simpatie. Hulle redeneer net dat as jou wapen so belangrik vir jou is hoek laat jy toe dat sy lisensie verval? Dan is hy mos nie so belangrik nie. Hulle doen hulle beste om ons wapens af te neem en deur laat te slaap met so iets maak ons dit vir hulle maklik.

Wie hou altyd tred met 10 jaar. As jy dan kennisgewing kry van 'n bevoegde en flinke stelsel sal jy mos betyds kan wees. Kyk hoe gaan dit met voertuiglisensies - tussen hulle en poskantoor moet jy fyn kyk.

[Jake1]

Alhoewel dit water dra is hierdie nie n rumour wat geskep is deur n "sekerre handelsgroep" in die bedryf wat bekend daarvoor staan dat hulle juis hernuwings doen nie?

[Boersonderroer]

As ek dit reg verstaan as jou competency verval het moet jy jou wapens binne 60 dae aan iemand verkoop. My pa se competency verval binnekort en hy het nog 'n pistol op sy naam. Wat moet hy met die pistol doen alvorens die nuwe eienaar se lisensie toegestaan is. Ons gaan nie dat hy sy competency hernu nie vir mediese redes.

[Chevvy SS]

Oom driepoot, ek het onlangs geplaas dat hulle nou hier by ons nie meer hernuwingskennisgewings uitstuur vir motorlisensies nie- dis 'n gemors as 'n mens 'n paar voertuie het.

[Jake1]

As mens n hernuwing vir vuurwapen "Competency" en of "Lisensie" doen, kan mens net die opleidingssertifikaat van die instansie gee waar bv. staan "Special asset protection services" waar sasseta akkredietasie nommer op is, sonder die amptelike Sasseta sertifikaat self by?

[Ben]

Op SA-Jagters Webblad kan mens n lys van jou wapens met verval datum van lisensie opstel.
Hulle sal jou ook dan SMS stuur.

[Louis Kriel]

Ek weet nie wie van julle al hierdie gesien het nie, maar dinge raak nou warm.

[Vlakvark Soldaat]

Yes, dit was laasweek gepost. Ek stem saam jou Louis K, dinge gebeur nie vining genoeg nie, wat obviously n warm effek om die regerings manne se kragies bevorder...

[Jake1]

Die gevaarligte vir vuurwapen eienaars begin op meer as een plek flikker. Ek weet nie of almal dit besef nie.

[Bunnyhugger]

Ons moet maar net ons kant so skoon as moontlik hou , gelukkig is die wet nog die wet en n amptenaar wat uit sy beurt n "brainfart" los kan dit nie affekteer nie , moeilik maak gaan hulle definitief en daardie "brainfart" is dalk n freudiese glipsie wat ons insig gee oor wat agter die skerms gekonkel word. Uit hulle onlangse sloer en handel is dit duidelik dat iemand nie n "happy camper"is nie en dat die huidige wette soos hulle staan nie te gewild is nie

[jamalley]

Ek het nog steeds 'n probleem met die feit dat daar nog steeds geen werklike uitwysing gedoen is aangaande hernuwing van gevoegdheid sertifikate nie, want volgens Artikel 10(2) bly jou bevoegdheid sertifikaat geldig vir dieselfde duur as die lisensie waarop dit van toepassing is - ek self het byvoorbeeld 10 jaar lisensies vir jag handwapens en ook verskillende lisensies met verskillende vervaldatums vir jaggewere en haelgewere - daar is 'n mening dat 'n bevoegdheid sertifikaat ook in terme van Artikel 27 slegs geldig is vir die periodes in die Artikel verskaf, maar dit maak nie sin nie, want 'n bevoegdheid sertifikaat is 'n sertifikaat in terme van die wet en Artikel 27 praat van permit of lisensie - ek het nou juis nuwe aansoeke in vir 'n pistool en jaggeweer, wat volgens my, my bevoegdhede vir handwapen en jaggeweer weereens vir 10 jaar gaan verleng.

[joe rocket]

Nou net n sms van Kaapjag ontvang dat jy minstens 90 voor jou lesensie verval moet aansoek doen. Dit lyk vir my hulle gaan nou streng raak.

[Henry]

Wel, ek het my hernuwing (kompetensie en lisensie) 84 dae voor sy vervaldatum ingedien. Ek het al nuwe kompetensie gekry, maar wag nog vir die lisensie. Vervlaks.

[JR68]

Ek my handwapen na verval datum ingedien.dit was okt2014.gaan die nuwe reel geld van nou af vorentoe of is ek ook in die moeilikheid.Ek luister graag

[joe rocket]

Die wet was nog altyd daar hulle gaan dit van nou af strenger toe pas.

[JR68]

So is ek ook in die moeilikheid