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 Post subject: QL hulp 6.5 grendel
PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:41 pm 
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Middag manne ek het vandag my 6.5 Grendel gaan skiet, kan julle help en kyk wat die node spoed is
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Dop lengte 38,45 mm
Dop volume 36,4 gr
Punt :108 gr lapua scenar
Kruit: S321 lot 240-16 0.9% dev
Primer Cci 450
Tpl 57.3mm

Eerste lading 26gr kruit: spoed op chrony 5m weg:
2377 fps
2366 fps
2371 fps

Tweede lading 27,5 gr kruit: spoed op chrony 5m weg:
2516 fps
2542 fps
2513 fps

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Your 27.5 grain load is on an accurate node.
How was your accuracy ?

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I think you have your answer

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Het nog n paar patrone van elk gelaai, sal more weer gaan skiet en kyk, ek jaag nie spoed met die grendel nie ek soek die akkuuraatste lading moontlik dink ek moet die kolf laat pak ook

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Het nog n paar patrone van elk gelaai, sal more weer gaan skiet en kyk, ek jaag nie spoed met die grendel nie ek soek die akkuuraatste lading moontlik dink ek moet die kolf laat pak ook


Watter soort kolf het jou roer op? Wil jy nie sommer 'n foto ook by sit nie asb?
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Basjan123 wrote:
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Het nog n paar patrone van elk gelaai, sal more weer gaan skiet en kyk, ek jaag nie spoed met die grendel nie ek soek die akkuuraatste lading moontlik dink ek moet die kolf laat pak ook


Watter soort kolf het jou roer op? Wil jy nie sommer 'n foto ook by sit nie asb?


Asb ja. My hart draai sterk na n Grendel toe, so ek hou hierdie draad dop.
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Basjan123 wrote:
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Het nog n paar patrone van elk gelaai, sal more weer gaan skiet en kyk, ek jaag nie spoed met die grendel nie ek soek die akkuuraatste lading moontlik dink ek moet die kolf laat pak ook


Watter soort kolf het jou roer op? Wil jy nie sommer 'n foto ook by sit nie asb?


TK. Het jy wragtag nog nie genoeg redes om n Grendel te koop nie. Komaan maak n plan. Mammie kan mos nie so kwaai wees nie :o

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Dale sh what is the exact speed I need to achieve?

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andre007 wrote:
Basjan123 wrote:
Henlo wrote:
Het nog n paar patrone van elk gelaai, sal more weer gaan skiet en kyk, ek jaag nie spoed met die grendel nie ek soek die akkuuraatste lading moontlik dink ek moet die kolf laat pak ook


Watter soort kolf het jou roer op? Wil jy nie sommer 'n foto ook by sit nie asb?


TK. Het jy wragtag nog nie genoeg redes om n Grendel te koop nie. Komaan maak n plan. Mammie kan mos nie so kwaai wees nie :o


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Henlo.

I disregarded the 2542 fps shot from the 27.5 grain load.
I think it was this shot that flew high and disrupted what looked like it could have been a good grouping with your 27.5 grain load.

If I disregard the 2542 fps shot and use the average of 2513 and 2516fps and add 15fps for the chrony at 5 meters then as I said your 27.5 grain load is on an accurate node.

MV should be 2529fps - 15 fps on the chrony at 5 meters = 2514 fps average.
Thus my reason for saying that your figures for the 27.5 grain load are right on an accurate node.

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Thank you, I shot the 27.5gr load again today, but the extreme spread was bad, 77 fps over 10 shots, temp was almost the same as yesterday, might be S321. If I use S335 wil the node speed be the same or lower?

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Depending on the batch of S335
Predictions are that your node speed will come down by about 25 fps ( 2500 fps average MV)
Your case fill (with the 108 Scenar and your current COL) will be almost 100%
Your percentage of powder burnt will increase substantially to almost 100%
Pressure will be almost the same at 48200 psi

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2700 fps? Is that a typo?

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Yes.
My apologies.
Should be 2500 fps.

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Thank you i am goin to try S335 and see if the extreme spread is better, thank you again for your help

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No problem.
Let us know how you go.

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Vandag besig om te skiet ek laai by die baan en skiet vir spoed, alles is dieselfde behalwe ek skiet nou S335 het 27.4 gr geskiet en spoed gekry
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op die chrony 5m weg as iemand kan kyk sal dit gaaf wees dan kan ek nou sommer skiet en kyk

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Henlo.

For all intents and purposes you are on a node.
Prediction is for 27.5 grains of your current batch of S 335 for MV 2512 fps - 15 fps for the chrony at 5 meters.
This batch of S 335 is burning slow in your rifle.
Start with a much lower charge if you use a different batch of S 335.

How was your grouping ?

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Thank you, accuracy was good 12mm at 100m and im happy with the spread, I just like to have it on the number

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I shot three 123gr lapua scenars today to get a speed for calibration, everything was kept the same but I loaded them with 26.3 gr S335 at the same COL and got the following speed: 2381 fps
2352 fps and an error, could you check what the node speed is on them. I am deciding between the two of them

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