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Triple-2 het gevra ek moet die opsit:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/49750262/huntin ... 282%29.pdf

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Kan iemand vir my asseblief verduidelik wat die volgende beteken:"..suspension of section 29 (g) caliber less than five comma six mm....


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Jy mag die goggo met n .22 bedood.

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Baie dankie! Groetnis!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:46 am 
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Let op die bladsy waar die koedoe seisoene is.
[img width=560 height=180]http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww324/beyersgrt/Proklamasie.jpg[/img]


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2 kudus per dag per plaas. Ek weet van n paar boere wat nie gelukkig hiermee gaan wees nie. Jy kan dan slegs 2 jagters per dag laat kudu skiet. Wat van n groep van 10 jagters wat vir die naweek kom jag.
Die kudu polisie sal moet wakker wees.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:49 am 
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Triple 2

Jong, maar as die boer meer as een plaas(Kaart-en-Transport) het?

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Hi Taffie
Nee ek weet nie hoe die besluit geneem is nie. n Boer met 13 000 ha plaas mag nou net soveel skiet as n boer met 200 ha ???
Hoe hulle dit gaan polisieer is die groot vraag. (Mannekrag)
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Kyk Na Burgersdorp, 2 koedoes totaal per plaas en net in Augustus, dis 'n grap! Seker hierdie reel is in Mtata uitgedink.

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Ek kan julle belowe in Rietbron en Willowmore gaan hierdie kite nie vlieg nie. Weet nie wat die manne daar teen die soutrivier gaan maak nie...

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Maak soos jy lekker kry. As jy gevang word vat die pak soos 'n man.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:37 am 
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Gelukkig is ons plaas so klein dat dit bitter min gebeur dat ons meer as 2 kudus op 'n jagdag skiet, so die natuur gaan my gelukkig uit die kwaad hou. Haha!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:34 pm 
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Ietsie interresants ontvang i.v.m proklamasie
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HUNTING PROCLAMATION STATS RATIONALE
The hunting proclamation is not an exact science and cannot be as it would be impractical to manage, therefore the removal quota is mostly a generalization for large areas/districts.
Perhaps an annual road strip count on a fixed, predetermined pattern throughout the Eastern Cape kudu habitat area would be a good idea.NMMU, ECGMA, DEDEAT and other interested parties could assist. (This would give an index to work from for the proclamation, and should probably be conducted in September after the hunting season).
However the following:
Approximately 4.5million hectares suitable for kudu in EC (excludes fynbos, coastal bush, grassveld and open Karoo.
Approximately 1.5 million ha is proclaimed protected area or conservancy.
Furstenburg?s study, in Fish River area,states that approximately 13% of kudu could be removed sustainably.
Kudu recruitment rate is between 18 and 25%.
Density of kudu in Fish River area6 per hundred ha.
Average density for kudu habitat would be about 4 per 100ha in Eastern Cape (probably more toward 3).
Therefore 3 million divided by 100 X 4 would equal the kudu population, therefore 120,000 kudu, if removal occurs at 18% then 21,600 could be removed annually on open farms, however if as suggested only 13% should be removed that would mean 15,600 animals.
That would mean that one can harvest only 1 animal per 200 ha on average per property annually.
Therefore a hunting season of 60 days to hunt between 2 and 5 kudu is more than adequate (200 ? 1000ha), and the hunting season is more than adequately long, in terms of convenience to a land owner, (in fact it is still far too long, and the bag limit of 2 per property per day is still far too high)
The Meat Safety Act states that no landowner may cull/hunt more than four animals in a period of 14 days for his own consumption, nor may he sell, donate or dispose of any carcass other than to a registered abattoir for game meat.  This, I think supports the view that the hunting season is meant for the culling of game for own consumption.
The hunting proclamation is a general broad based document, and does not cater for small differences in habitat or local conditions, and cannot be tailored to any short term research.  Many of the unknowns cited by Graham Kerley are pertinent but impractical to consider for the hunting proclamation (e.g.climate change, disease, foliage density, the impact of hunting bulls only, and the most unreliable would be a questionnaire survey as it can be manipulated by respondents to suittheir needs).
I would gladly appreciate any correction of any of the figures or calculations given (sources are Furstenburg, Bothma and Kerley), as I feel that this can be used as a basis for determining the hunting quota for any given year.
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Triple 2

Jong, maar as die boer meer as een plaas(Kaart-en-Transport)]As jy die ding mooi gaan lees sal jy sien dat al het jy 3 plase
op verskilende plekke jy nog steeds net 2 kudus per dag mag skiet op die 3 plase saam. Hulle sien dit as een eienaar. MAAR nou ja.


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Hi there all

In the Queenstown area we are allowed to shoot a maximum of 2 Kudu per land for the entire month of August. I have spoken to Tim de Jongh about this. The only way we will get to be allowed to shoot more is if all the farmers report that they have indeed shot their 2 Kudu. Even if you do not shoot any, report them as shot. This will increase the amount shot on the Provincial records and increase the chances of us being allowed to shoot more next year. So jakkalsgat get your farmers in the area to help in this regard.

Triple 2, I agree with you that it is not fair to restrict the kudu on landowner, but they should rather look at ground size.

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The Quota is granted per title deed, not farm, and very few farms in the EC have only one title deed, mine has 4.

The quotas this year were compiled after liaison with all participating farmers associations, and if you are not active in your FA, or your FA does not participate, then you have no leg to stand on, if you or it are, then you should be in the picture. Kudu numbers at the end of last year were down substantially from previous years due to the prolonged drought, two lengthy wet cold snaps early in the winter killing underweight and / or malnourished animals, as well as a substantial die off due to Rift Valley fever.

There are areas where kudu were affected to a lesser extent, and areas where they were decimated. Aberdeen (I think) for instance is closed this year for kudu.

I am also aware of farmers in the EC that take MANY more kudu than the quotas, in and out of the season.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:59 am 
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Beyers wrote:
Let op die bladsy waar die koedoe seisoene is.
[img width=560 height=180]http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/ww324/beyersgrt/Proklamasie.jpg[/img]


Let ook op na die definisies soos uiteengesit op bladsy 13 :

"property",for the purpose of this proclamation "property" means all the title deeds held by a specific owner.

So beteken dit dan al het 'n plaas eienaar 4 titel aktes, hy nog steeds net 1 koedoe mag skiet per dag?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:47 am 
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Stasoft,

Ek het ook daardie vraag gevra, want dit sal beteken dat as 'n ou twee of meer plase het hy nog steeds beperk is tot 1 kudu, al sit sy plase in verkillende dorpe, toe word ek vertel dit is per title deed. Ek neem aan dat versillende distrikte die wet veskillend gaan toepas, en stel dus voor dat jy met jou plaaslikke ou gaan gesels, en hoor hoe hy dit sien en gaan toepas.

My inligting op my vorige post is dan obviously verkeerd volgens die skrywe wat jy aanhaal, en moet dan vanselfsprekend ge ignoreer word, sorry.

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Ek haal ook maar net aan wat ek gelees het. Miskien kan die manne wat die wet beter ken bietjie kommentaar lewer?
Ek stem 100% dat die toepassing en regulering daarvan 'n nagmerrie gaan wees.
Jy kan jouself indink as jy n groep manne van 6 of meer jagters in die veld het en 'n trop koedoes hardloop daar verby wat gaan gebeur...

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