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12ga ammo?

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Ek begin sommer n nuwe onderwerp dat ek nie die ander een deurmekaar maak nie.

Watse haelgeweer ammo verkies jy. Hier verwys ek na die vervaardiger, of maak dit nie saak nie?

Dan ook spesifiek faktore soos brass, hoog of laag en watse wad meteriaal verkies jy?

Ondersky asb tussen semi-auto, pomp en enkel/dubbels aangesien dit klink of van die semi-autos maar sukkel en veral die AR15 gebasseerde modelle.

Hierdie vraag kom van African Game Bird en African Buckshot wat ek vandag gesien het en redelik geprys is. Destyds dink ek my meeste ammo was Eley wat uit n pomp of dubbel geskiet was en geen probleme verskaf het nie.

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Vir duiwe skiet gebruik ek 28 gr no 7,5. My semi auto skiet hulle sonder enige probleme. Groot watervoels hou ek van no 3 en dan hou ek SSG en 00 Buck aan vir SD.
'n Pel van my skiet 'n AR gebasserde semi sonder enige probleme.
Deesdae koop ek maar wat ek teen die beste prys kan kry. 'n Semi maak jou vinnig arm as dit by ammo kom.
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Net soos Ratel daar sê. Ons skiet gereeld duiwe. Sommiges presteer wel bietjie beter as ander, maar ek skiet die ammo wat ek die goedkoopste in die hande kan kry.

No3 en of 4's werk lekker vir ganse veral as jy 36's in die hande kan kry. Dit raak egter n resue uitdaging om enige iets swaarder as 32 of 34's te kry.

Sommige vd semi's is hardegat om te "cycle" met vd 7.5's 28gr. Ek het gevind dat ammo wat bietjie langer brass het die probleem oplos, sommige fabrikate het n klein brass gedeelte, dit wil voorkom asof daai doppe meer geneig is om te flex met die uitwerp slag, wat maak dat die semi's nie lekker cycle nie.

Wad materiaal is iets wat jy van lees op die internet. Ek wil my verstout en sê dat 95% vd ammo in SA beskikbaar plastic wads het.

Safari en outdoor het ammo met velt wads maar dit is moer duur...
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Hi brass is om te keer dat die doppe te erg vervorm gedurend die vuuring. So wat jy noem is dat die doppe dan eintlik moeiliker is om uit te trek en dit is wat die cycling benadeel want jou slot se spoed is nou stadiger as gewoonlik.
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Hi Arnold

Nee, ek het n ou Beretta A302. Hy wou nie die doppe met "low" brass lekker uit trek nie. Die met die high brass het verseker beter uitgekom as die met low brass.

Ek praat nou nie van high brass magnum rondtes nie. Op n tyd het jy 7.5 28gr's gekry watse brass gedeelte langer was as vd ander, dink dit was RIO gewees.

My A 302 is nou al lekker glad geskiet en cycle nou amper enige rondte.

Ek praat onder korreksie maar vd semi's, vermoed die AR tipes, moet eintlik die korter rondtes skiet die 65mm en nie die 70's nie as ek dit reg het.
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Dankie Rasmus. Ja my bedoeling was dat hi brass vervorming weerstaan en low brass trek moeilik uit.

Mens kry bv. FIOCHI TT One en TT Two. Die One se brass is 8mm teenoor die 12mm van die Two en verder sien ek geen verskil nie.

Dit wys mooi uit hoekom van die semi gewere nie die ligter target ladings cycle nie. Moontlike low brass en minder recoil/gas vir die uit trek slag.

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My 2c (verskoon die Brits...)

In terms of different brands, some claim to use better components with hardened shot and more uniform pellets. It may be true but this is wasted on 99% of the shooters I've observed, including me. Some also claim to have slightly higher velocity. Again, I have seen very very few shooters that this makes an appreciable difference for. Like golf, the best exponents usually remain the best despite the equipment, rather than because of it.

Modern double barrels will chew through whatever you put in them - so buy the cheapest. If you're competing at the sharp end of clay pigeon comps, then test a few brands/loads on a pattern plate but this is a bit of a rabbit hole. Most modern ammo is good to go for most shooters.
Obviously with older guns that may be out of proof or have 2.5" chambers, then appropriate ammo must be used.

As mentioned above, semi-autos can be a little fussy, especially when new. If inertia-operated (Benelli M2, Stoeger etc) then heavier loads cycle the gun better. Usually 28g loads and up function with no issues but lighter can be problematic. Gas operated tend to be less fussy with light loads in my experience.

The high brass versus low brass story - never noticed a difference in scores or kills in any of the shotguns I've used. But I cannot claim to have tested very scientifically. Personally, I would select my ammo more on price and availability than length of brass.
High brass may be better for reloading?

Fibre wads are a compromise dreamt up by the enviro-lobby in Europe. Most tests show that plastic wads give better patterns, so we should be grateful we are not forced to use fibre. The fact that plastic is usually cheaper is a bonus.
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