JARACAL

savage wrote:Gaan n groot gelag afgee waneer alle wapens ballisties getoets moet word.
Klink na n saak van onmoontlikheid.

Vantheman wrote:Wat se hulle? Ek kry dit nie gedownload op die tab nie....

So, let's try be constructive, and supply our various organisations with the correct "Ammo" to use against this monster.

1. The ballistic sampling idea was obviously not conceived by someone with practical knowledge of civilian FA's. There is a long thread elsewhere on the forum, outlining all the various issues. Just as an example of a few issues, that will manufest immediately, when the sampling is implemented: DFO's are only trained in the use of a DA decocker 9mm Pistol, R1/R5 rifle and 12 Ga Pump-action shotgun. How are they going to test, for example, a normal (very common) 375 hunting rifle? Ouch! And FA's for which ammo (and cases) are unobtainable? If the owner is supposed to supply the ammo, what prevents him from tampering with it (or the FA), to invalidate any ballistic data? Will gun shops have to submit every FA sold, to this testing?

2. The 5 years "waiting period" for DSS: At present, the DFO (and CFR) will not accept a 5 year old DSS certificate. It has to be issued within this year. They do not know, what they want. But, on a more practical note, are there any sporting associations, where you can not attain DSS, with a "ordinary" (non-restricted) FA? I still think this whole concept is flawed and impractical.

3. DH not allowed restricted FA's anymore? What purpose would that serve? Clearly they are s... scared of any semi long gun, despite these not featuring in any crime stats. This amendement is not about crime or administration, it is about the powers that be, being scared of us law abiding citizens, to the point of wanting to pull our teeth! I.e. it's a political thing, clear and simple.

4. Fresh training for Comp renewal? I do not feel the need to undergo expensive RPL "training". But reading what some FA owners post on social media, regular refreshers seem a good idea. Will it reduce real crime? Obviously not.

5. Installing a 21 year age limit on collectors. What difference will this make? How many serious collectors are there under the age of 21? And when was one of them ever involved in any crime or subversive activities? Collectors are just as enthusiastic FA owners as DSS or DH owners, if not even more so. In other words, they will be better informed and will take better care of their FA's, in general.

6. Some of the measures in the draft, are obviously intended to rectify part of the mess created by the over-complicated and under-logical provisions of the FCA and amendments. Following the same flawed process, to push it though, without proper regard for the positive, considered input of all the knowledgeable affected parties (that's us, the licenced owners), will result in an even bigger, more complicated mess. Not conducive to building goodwill with the law abiding FA owners.

The SAPS (CFR) have not yet succeded in fully implementing the old FCA (Act 60 of 2000). Now they will likely be burdened with a load of new, more unworkable and admin-intensive measures. This only increases the possibilities for more corruption and less compliance. Maybe they want to disrupt the whole licensing process on purpose?

joe rocket wrote:Nou moet jy eers aansoek doen om te ackley en te tombi voordat jy dit mag doen.Wonder net wie al hierdie papiere werk gaan doen.Wonder wie gaan die amunissie verskaf vir die balistiese toetse

Jagtersreg Motiverng wrote:Volgens die voorgestelde wetgewing gaan die groen kaartjies net 2 jaar geldig wees na implimentering van die wetgewing. Sover ek weet is die saak tussen die regering en SA Jagters nie afgehandel nie en die laaste uitspraak was dat groen lisensies geldig is. MIS EK IETS of WIL HULLE IETS LAAT DEURGLIP?

Jakkels 223 wrote:net n simple vraag,
gaan die ballistiese merke wat die wapen laat nie verander oor tyd nie, in ag geneem "Wear & Tear" van die wapen
The rifle used in the Martin Luther King assassination was test fired 18 times under court supervision, and the results showed that no two bullets were marked alike. 8 “Every test bullet was different because it was going over plating created by the previous bullet.”
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-my ... -printing/
Dink nie die idee gaan enigsins help nie

alecjohnson wrote:Wat my die meeste pla is die beperking van 200rondtes al het jy toegewyde status, ek skiet net te veel .22 dat dit kan werk en ek kan nie elke week 100km ry vir net 200rondtes nie.
ek verstaan gladnie die rede vir die nuwe reels nie. Ook die toetse op die geweer... Moet ek nou my gewere wegstuur vir toetse? Hulle is seker lekker gek! Die goed maak nie sin vir my noe, en maak my bekommerd

alecjohnson wrote:Wat my die meeste pla is die beperking van 200rondtes al het jy toegewyde status, ek skiet net te veel .22 dat dit kan werk en ek kan nie elke week 100km ry vir net 200rondtes nie.
ek verstaan gladnie die rede vir die nuwe reels nie. Ook die toetse op die geweer... Moet ek nou my gewere wegstuur vir toetse? Hulle is seker lekker gek! Die goed maak nie sin vir my noe, en maak my bekommerd

Jagtersreg Motiverng wrote:Carl

Ek stem saam met jou maar dit wil voorkom of nie alle assosiaties die nodige ontvang het nie. Ek het vanmiddag dit deurgestuur na n sportskiet vereniging wat nie kennis gedra het nie. Die manne sal moet wikkel voor 12h00 more

Dear Member
We would like to inform you that SAHGCA received and is studying the proposed changes to the Draft Amendment Firearms Control Bill which was released for comment on 14 November.
There are a both positive and some less positive changes in the amendments and SAHGCA is busy preparing a document for comment and recommendation. The new amendments also refer to changes with regards to the firearm licenses issues under the old act (old green and blue licenses). Members are reminded that these licenses are still valid under the court order.
More information on SAHGCA's comments will be made available in due course.
Hunters GreetingSAHGCA