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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by JohanvB » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:56 am

Swede wrote://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190915/e7c825313ac5561a3596df105d9275d1.jpg

.308 168 gr Hybrid Target
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Daai balkruit loop mooi!!

Hoe vind jy dit teenoor S321, ek neem aan dit is wat jy gebruik het??

Jou spoed en looplengte asb.

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by Swede » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:19 am

JohanvB wrote:
Swede wrote://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190915/e7c825313ac5561a3596df105d9275d1.jpg

.308 168 gr Hybrid Target
D073.6

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Daai balkruit loop mooi!!

Hoe vind jy dit teenoor S321, ek neem aan dit is wat jy gebruik het??

Jou spoed en looplengte asb.

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Ek het bietjie gesukkel eers standaard slagdop, magnum slagdoppie toe gebruik, terug standaard toe. TPL gestel op max mag lengte. Ek het nie spoed gemeet nie, maar moet hier in die orde van 2600vps, sal later dit oor Magneto skiet. Het geen ervaring met 321 nie. Howa Varmnit 24" loop. Ek het 'n OCW geskiet. Die is balletjie kruit

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by Vleisie » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:30 pm

Het enige van julle manne al toetse gedoen met 22-250 Rem en die Lovex kruit?
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:12 pm

Ek dink nie jy sal teleurgestel word nie. Die' dryfmiddel is vir baie jare onder die naam Accurate in Amerika verkoop en ek kon nog nie 'n plek kry wat dit as gemors beskryf nie. Ons het al baie oor S365 gekla, maar dit vergelyk baie goed met die ander oorsese dryfmiddels en gee 'n hoë nodespoed.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by Vleisie » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:00 pm

Dit is nie vir my nie, het n vriend wat se S335 nou klaar is en hy soek iets om dit me te vervang, dis hoekom ek wonder of iemand dit al in 22-250 getoets het.

Ek skiet S341 op my 22-250 en hulle werk mooi en ek het genoeg van dit om 2 lope klaar te skiet.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:38 pm

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by GWB » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:59 am

Hi Manne weet iemand of daar n Handelaar in George\Suid Kaap omgewing is wat die Lovex aanhou?

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:20 pm

Slegs KK in Jhb. Hulle koerier die dryfmiddel na jou.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by BenJacobs » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:51 pm

tripodmvr wrote:Slegs KK in Jhb. Hulle koerier die dryfmiddel na jou.
Wat kos die vervoer?

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:51 pm

Dink R150. Bel en vind uit. Google KK gunshop.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:38 am

Kennisgewing gekry dat 'n besending pistool dryfmiddel geland het.

D032 - R550 per 500 gram
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by swc-tr » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:02 am

Op n ander forum raakgelees:
SW powders are manufactured by Explosia a.s. in the Semtin region of the Czech Republic. (Yes, the part of the world that gave us, Black September, the Provisional IRA etc 'Semtex' 30, 40 years ago!) We in Europe get them as Lovex brand powders. They come in two groups: SO-XX single-based extruded; DO-XX double-based, mostly 'spherical' and a few extruded in both rifle and pistol grades. Shooters World is only using part of the range and has renamed those grades it has selected.

They're not entirely new to the USA. If you ever used Accurate Arms powders in the days when it was an independent prior to being bought by Western Powders of Montana, most AA grades were Explosia/Lovex sourced and renamed with AA's 4-numeric description. After Western got AA it changed suppliers with most of its 'ball' types (Ramshot alongside 'Accurate' made by Eurenco P B Clermont in Belgium, a world leader in this type of propellant; some 'ball' from General Dynamics St. Marks Powder Co. in Florida; most or all extruded from General Dynamics Vallyfield, Quebec Province, Canada (which makes 90%+ of the IMR grades for Hodgdon).

SW's website has links to Explosia's 'Lovex' web pages and gives access to European CIP loads data for the whole Lovex range. Do NOT believe some entries in the burning rate chart from this source especially that of Lovex SO-65 (SW 'Long Rifle') which says it's equivalent to H. VarGet - it's not and is a poor VarGet replacement in 308 Win, far too slow burning and bulky. SW's site gives the links between SW and Lovex names. eg SW 'Precision' = Lovex SO-62 which in turn was sold in the US as AA-4064 until the Western takeover and remains close to today's Canadian IMR-4064 / Accurate-4064 in actual performance and applications.SW is redoing the data for the grades it has selected and providing it for cartridges that appeal to US and UK shooters and are missing from the eastern European tables. SW's burning rate chart is much better than Explosia's / Lovex's to get an idea of possible applications.

I like the single-based extruded Lovex powders a lot, the ball types a lot less so. Unless Explosia has updated them recently, they're hot, dirty burners and leave a hard fouling crust on case necks that pre STM, ultrasonic cleaning needed harsh mechanical abrasive cleaning methods.

SW 'Match Rifle' is Lovex DO-73.6 and similar to Accurate-2520 but nothing like as clean burning. It does give VERY high MVs and good groups though in some applications and is pretty popular in the UK for that reason.

SW 'Blackout' is Lovex DO-63 similar to Accurate-1680, originally a 7.62X39mm military cartridge powder.

SW 'Tactical Rifle' is Lovex DO-73.1 and has no direct equivalent. Apparently a step slower burning than today's Accurate-2230

SW 'Precision' is Lovex SO-62 and used to be AA-4064. A vice free traditional longish grain powder that does the same job as IMR-4064 in the same cartridges. That is a good performer and very flexible. An excellent 308 Win grade, but whether it'd produce H4895 and VarGet MVs I couldn't say and it'll likely have 'traditional' single-based extruded temperature sensitivity,

SW 'Long Rifle' is Lovex SO-65 extruded and has no old or new Accurate equivalent. A good powder for roomy cases that need a powder whose burning rate matches the fastest of the 4350s - 7X64mm Brennecke, 7X57mm Mauser, mid-size 6.5s and suchlike. SW says it's excellent in 6.5 Creedmoor which I could well believe.

'SW4350' is the old pre Western AA-4350 and is SO-70 in Explosia's Lovex charts. As AA-4350, it was the slowest burning of the 4350 trio, almost overlapping with faster lots of 4831 and this still seems to apply. This limits its MVs in some of the smaller case numbers that use powders in this burning rate band such as 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 Rem and would be no good at all in 6.5X47L and suchlike.

One other possible grade that may be of interest to rifle shooters is SW 'Buffalo Rifle' (Lovex DO-60) a stubby extruded specialist double-based grade for large calibre BPCR cartridges, lead bullet rifle shooters, downloaded cartridges. This is the old Accurate Arms days AA-5744 designed to give black powder pressures in the 19th century single-shot rimmed numbers of 40 to 50 calibre, but has lots of other uses. (Western still lists its Accurate-5744 sourced from I know not where.)
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by andre007 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:47 am

Manne is hier al herlaaiers wat Lovex in hulle Creeds begin gebruik het? Sal seker S070 wees.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by dirkbotma » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:12 am

Hi Almal

Enige iemand wat al weer verdere toetse gedoen het met Lovex kruit. Spesifiek S070?

Ons het Lovex S070 gekry vir my swaar en gaan dit toets op sy 3 kalibers.

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Ons sal sien hoe werk dit, ek was gelukkig laas jaar en het nog S365 wat ek gebruik

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by fanie.myburgh » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:12 pm

Halo.

Ekt nou nie op een van daai kalibers gedoen nie maar op my 6.5 Creedmoor was die ontbranding baie stadiger as S365.

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Post by tripodmvr » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:58 pm

Fanie, kan jy so bietjie syfers gee sodat ek dit in QL laat loop.

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by fanie.myburgh » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:27 pm

Howa 6.5 Creedmoor
Loop lengte 609mm
Norma dop volume 53gr
139gr Lapua senars 70.7mm TPL
Lovex 070 45.3gr
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Post by tripodmvr » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:37 pm

Daardie lot dryfmiddel is hond stadig. Is jou dop nie oorvol nie?

Die node is by 2650vps en 45gr is die lading.
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Post by LoopSoosStroop » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:08 pm

My S070 is ook bae stadig, compressed load in 'n Creed kry jou nog nie by S365 spoed uit nie.
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by Rasmus » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:13 pm

Sien SWC se aanhaling hierbo....

“'SW4350' is the old pre Western AA-4350 and is SO-70 in Explosia's Lovex charts. As AA-4350, it was the slowest burning of the 4350 trio, almost overlapping with faster lots of 4831 and this still seems to apply. This limits its MVs in some of the smaller case numbers that use powders in this burning rate band such as 6.5 Creedmoor and 260 Rem and would be no good at all in 6.5X47L and suchlike. “

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by JohanvB » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:45 pm

Howa 308 duk loop
Loop lengte 20"
lapua palma volume 52.08gr
Dop lengte 50.93mm
Hornady Amax 155gr 71.01mm TPL
Lovex 060 44.8gr
gemiddeld van 2718fps met Magnetospeed gemeet.

Spoed is effe aan die hoë kant, maar groepie lyk so mooi..
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Post by JohanvB » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 pm

Wil net by sê, ek kan amper nog 'n graaf vol poeier in daai doppe gooi..

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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:19 am

JohanvB wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:45 pm
Howa 308 duk loop
Loop lengte 20"
lapua palma volume 52.08gr QL verstekwaarde = 56gr
Dop lengte 50.93mm
Hornady Amax 155gr 71.01mm TPL
Lovex 060 44.8gr Druk bereken as 65K psi en 111% vul
gemiddeld van 2718fps met Magnetospeed gemeet. Hoogste veilige node = 42,6gr en 2580vps. Brandtempo is baie laer as gegee

Spoed is effe aan die hoë kant, maar groepie lyk so mooi..
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Re: Lovex dryfmiddel

Post by tripodmvr » Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:26 am

JohanvB wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:49 pm
Howa 308 duk loop
Loop lengte 20"
lapua palma volume 52.08gr
Dop lengte 50.93mm
Hornady GMX 150gr 71.90mm TPL
Lovex 060 42.8gr Node by 42gr en 2560vps. Vul 110% en druk by 54K psi.
gemiddeld van 2613fps met Magnetospeed gemeet. Brandtempo is nog laer as met die 155Amax
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Post by andre007 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:42 am

https://explosia.cz/app/uploads/2019/07 ... en_new.pdf

Op bladsy 4 wys hulle wat die mees gepaste kruit is en op bladsy 9 wys hulle die toepassing van die spesifieke kruit, vir die Creed bv is S065, S070 en S071. Ek en Dale het al gepraat oor die kruit vir n ligter pit in die Creed, die S070 bv het nie geklop op QL nie. S071 sou beter werk, hoe dink julle gaan S065 itv optimale brandspoed?
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