.404 Jeffrey (cost effective option)

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If CZ offered the .404 Jeffery in their Safari Magnum model, would you buy one?

Yes I'll buy one tomorrow
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16%
A definite maybe
20
36%
Due to a lack of options, I had one custom built
3
5%
No, I prefer the .416 Rigby
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29%
No, I prefer something even bigger
2
4%
No
3
5%
No, but I would like some other cartride in their "Safari Magnum" model
3
5%
 
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.404 Jeffrey (cost effective option)

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Dear Gents I would just like to know the following out of interest sake.
Kindest regards.


(PS I've edited the heading to be more descriptive)
(PS I made another mistake, I was actually referring to the "Safari Magnum")
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I would have chosen option 1 if I had not starting building one yet due to lack of availability.

CZ would be an excellent option
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I hope there are a lot of interest in the .404 Jeff since it may compel brass manufactures to start turning out .404 brass so it will be much more available in quantities at lower prices. I can not phantom why the brass needs to be so expensive while there are new technology to turn out this type of brass at large affordable quantities at this stage of the manufacturing game. It surely is not that more difficult to manufacturing a .308 brass than a .404 brass????

My guess is the manufacturers keep the availability of this type of brass low so they can make more money out of these items. Even the retailers enjoy the same tactics. They can ask what they will since you have already a big caliber like a .404 Jeff you usually will pay exorbitant prices just to be able to shoot these rifles....I know I am opening myself to be criticize, but that is the way I see it.....feel free to differ from me...

I would definitely have bought one if I did not have one already.....
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.404 Jeffery M98 aksie (.423) VZ34 aksie 80 jaar oud
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Vraag en aanbod oom Gert. Vir elke 404Jeff dop wat leeggeskiet word is daar 100 000 (of selfs baie meer!!) 308 dope wat geskiet raak...

Dis nie lonend om n produksielyn te staak en op te stel vir n produk wat so klein aanvraag het nie.

Oom maar my raaiskoot...

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Sorry!! Om tot die gesprek by te dra, ek stem vir opsie 2

CZ bou spuls gewere in die groter kalibers, nog nie van een klient, vriend of kollega wat met een skoot gesukkel het met syne nie...

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The reason I'm raising this question is because it will result in a good quality rifle, but just in a more affordable style.
The .404 Jeffrey is only offered by CZ in the "express" style and those are selling for R40 000.00 plus
Should CZ make the .404 in the "Safari Magnum" it will probably cost around R20 000.00
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ZKK

I bought a .458 Lott in the Safari Magnum (the Amrican version with the straight comb stock).

I then spent a bit of money on it by sanding of the lacquer finish and redoing it with an oil finish. Then added a grip cap, barrel band, bolt jewelling, black front end tip, etc.

I got close to the look of the Safari Classic for less cost. I asked a similar question on the forum, some time ago, whether the safari classic is worth the money? I think you are going to look far and wide for a safari classic under R45k.

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ZKK, do you have influence on CZ to have them look at this option?
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Sorry gents, As Christo have pointed out I was actually referring to the "Safari Magnum"

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz- ... ri-magnum/

I have edited all my posts to reflect the correct name.
You should be able to change your vote if you wish.
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@ Deon

No I do not have any influence.
The other night I was on their website, and I thought why do I not e-mail them and ask them why they do not make the Jeffrey in their Safari Magnum model.
Just as I've completed the mail (and before sending it), It struck me why do I not run a poll here and see if there is really as much interest in the .404 as I was claiming in my mail.

It is my intention to send CZ this link to appeal to them to make the .404 Jeffrey in their Safari Magnum.

I guess one can only try..........
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ZKK, it is worth it for trying to get those guys to build a more affordable .404 Jeffery, I have the same quarry regarding more affordable .404 brass, there are more than enough .404 Jeffery rifles in the world to supply brass too.
.458 Mannlicher Schoenauer
.404 Jeffery M98 aksie (.423) VZ34 aksie 80 jaar oud
.375 H&H Magnum Cogswell & Harrison VZ24 BRNO M98 -aksie
8x57 JS Mauser
7.62 Israeli Mauser (M98)
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I will invest in a 404 Safari Magnum
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Me too.....me too for a CZ in 404 safari magnum.
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Nice , the more the merrier... :laugh: Now we can do a group buy on .404 brass or rounds... ::)
.458 Mannlicher Schoenauer
.404 Jeffery M98 aksie (.423) VZ34 aksie 80 jaar oud
.375 H&H Magnum Cogswell & Harrison VZ24 BRNO M98 -aksie
8x57 JS Mauser
7.62 Israeli Mauser (M98)
.22LR Semi-auto Gevarm E-1
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Gert,

I'm in on any group buy for the 404 Jeff!!
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Dsmerrils.

Please post a photo or two of your custom built 404.

By who was it built?
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Dsmerrils, take a look at this .404 Jeffery build by Johan Greyling...R23000 for a very good working rifle...
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy314/boogskutter/DSC02699_zpsc3617ad7.jpg
.458 Mannlicher Schoenauer
.404 Jeffery M98 aksie (.423) VZ34 aksie 80 jaar oud
.375 H&H Magnum Cogswell & Harrison VZ24 BRNO M98 -aksie
8x57 JS Mauser
7.62 Israeli Mauser (M98)
.22LR Semi-auto Gevarm E-1
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Ek weet ek haal die een uit die ou dae

Maar het CZ ooit teruggekom na jou ZKK?
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Goeie more Flash.
Ja-nee kyk, jy het die een uit die argiewe gaan haal.

Man as ek mooi kan onthou het hulle ge-reply, maar ek dink nie die belangstelling was genoeg om daadwerklike aksie te kry by CZ nie.
Ek dink ek het n link na hierdie draad ook vir hulle gestuur.
Jy is meer as welkom om weer met hulle op te volg.
Dalks kry jy meer uit gerig.

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Ai dit is n jammerte

N cz 404 sou darm mooi wees
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Ek djnk die 404 is die toonbeeld van die klassieke Afrika geweer.
Die 416 is maar net deesdae so gewild omdat dit so n besonderse mooi patroon het.
Daar was seker nie n gamedepartment in Afrika wat dit nie gebruik het nie... en nou praat ek van die klassieke Afrika wat betref grootwild jag.
Die 416 het bietjie meer krag, maar die 404 het oorgenoeg en sy recoil is ook beter.
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