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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:28 pm 
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Koos Barnard wrote:
Geen skietraam wat ek al ooit op 'n bakkie gebruik het was vir my ideaal nie. Ek verkies 'n u-vormige skietbank sodat jou skiethand se elmboog 'n goeie rus kan hê. Met 'n ordentlike u-vorm waarin jy sit pas/sit kan jy bokke in 'n wye radius skiet.
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Koos, jy het mos nie ondervinding van bakkiejag nie! >:+

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Jy weet maar net nie PW. Ek is een van daardie skynheiliges (so word vertel) wat suip en pornografie kyk en... as ek dink niemand kyk nie skiet en jag ek van bakkies af.
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Koos Barnard wrote:
Jy weet maar net nie PW. Ek is een van daardie skynheiliges (so word vertel) wat suip en pornografie kyk en... as ek dink niemand kyk nie skiet en jag ek van bakkies af.
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Werklik 'n man van vele deugde... ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:15 am 
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[quote="Geno"]So lyk my jag raam.
2 enkel bankies met 'n skiet rus wat kan swivel en in plek vas maak met 'n bout. Sodoende kan ek amper reg rondom die bakkie skiet.





Op Huntex vanjaar wou my 2 jarige dogter net weet of hierdie die jakkals is wat al Oupa se skape vang...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:59 pm 
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Een van die dae kan julle die besigheidsklassitplekke by SAL teen 'n billike prys kry om op die skietbakkie te monteer. Probleem is net dat jy iets sal moet gebruik om nie aan die slaap te raak nie.

Hoor niks van Dimitri nie. Sal graag sy opinie oor die konstruksie van 'n jagbakkie wil hoor. ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:48 pm 
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Ek hou van n jagraam wat langs die kant ook verbykom. Om een of ander rede staan die wild selde indien ooit reg voor die bakkie. Ek het n jagraam laat bou, waar die raam waarop die geweer rus en die skietbank waarop jou elmboog rus, dieselfde hoogte uitmekaar uit is- as wanneer ek op n skietbankie( op die skietbaan) met skietrusse skiet. Dit maak dat, hoe jy jou geweer instel dan betroubaar vanaf die skietraam herhaal kan word. Ek hou ook van n skietraam wat in plek is, as jy staan en skiet. Dit maak dit net maklikker om die teiken op te spoor. Ek het ook destyds my raam so gebou dat as jy sit of staan is jy dieselfde hoogte. Hiervoor kan jy maar net aan jou stoelle se montering en hoogte aandag gee. Baie keer sal jy n teiken uit die oog verloor, as jy van posisies verander net om te kan aanlê. En van die happy accidents by n skietraam wat hoog genoeg is vir staan en skiet, is dat dit baie meer veiligheid bied vir die persone in die bakkie. Ook as iemand uitklim onverwags, dan is die loop ver bo sy kop. Skietrame wat laag op n bakkie sit, is baie keer op dieselfde hoogte as n persoon wat langs die voertuig sou staan.

Daar moet natuurlik altyd lekker pakplek wees, en of n lekker stewige laai. Ek voel altyd dat die onderste rus waarop jou elmboë rus, moet n lekker groot stewige oppervlakte wees. Die gedeelte waarop die geweer rus kan maar klein wees. Dit moet net stewig wees en n dik spons onder hê, anders kan jy barrel wip kry. Stoelle/banke wat teen die raam gemonteer is, maak dat jy baie meer laaiplek het onder die stoelle. Plek vir water en grawe wat gemonteer kan word is natuurlik lekker handig.

Laaste, maar vir my die belangrikste, is dat die raam nie rattle en geraas maak nie

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Baie dankie almal!

Het nou baie stof tot nadenke. Sal fotos van die finale produk hier kom plaas.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 pm 
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PWV wrote:
Hoor niks van Dimitri nie. Sal graag sy opinie oor die konstruksie van 'n jagbakkie wil hoor. ;)


Guys, you are already cheating by not walking or stalking. Having a mobile shooting bench mounted on the back of the bakkie is taking things too far. It takes up loading space, it's too costly and if you can shoot it's not necessary.

Some years ago I arrived at my friend's farm in the late afternoon. He and his brother were about to take a drive to the lands they were hiring. They had planted wheat and it seemed that just about every animal in the district was feasting on the wheat. The warthogs - in particular - were doing a lot of damage. Their Toyota bakkie did not have a shooting frame of any sort on it. A soft guncase folded double and placed on top of the cab was the only shooting aid. The wheat was ripe and it looked like a beautiful sea of gold. When the warthogs heard the vehicle their dark heads would pop out above the wheat like a hippo's head pops out of the water. In half an hour or so there were 7 warthogs loaded on the back of the bakkie. You can't comfortably load 7 warthogs on the back of the bakkie and still have standing space for two people and a dog if there is shooting rest mounted there. One shot, in particular, stands out for me and proves that a mobile shooting bench is just overkill and entirely unnecessary, if you can shoot and if you have your soft guncase or thick jacket with you. One wiley old warthog boar knew the score and only popped his head up for a split second before making an impressive dash for the treeline. The boar was running from right to left directly across us at about 150m so the muzzle of the 30-06 needed to be pointed a fair distance in front of the sprinting pig. The pig was going so fast that when the shot came he somersaulted 4 times before piling up in a dusty heap - a perfect shot through both shoulders. The other shots were taken at approximately between 100 and 200m. All one-shot kills. No need for a SKIETraam?

I didn't do any of the shooting myself and see no enjoyment in shooting animals from the back of the bakkie. I use the bakkie to get to the farm, do a few game drives and load the animals once I have hunted them walk and stalk and for that I don't need a SKIETraam om my bakkie. So, I'm not the best person to ask about skietraam design ;D ;D ;D . Which is probably just as well. If I had ideas and opinions to share it may have landed up being a lengthy post! ++>: Which may have irritated Wouter. ++>:


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Dimitri wrote:
You can't comfortably load 7 warthogs on the back of the bakkie and still have standing space for two people and a dog if there is shooting rest mounted there.


Nee man julle moet net reg laai dan is dit heeltemal moontlik



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Ek hoor die hele skietraam vs jagraam argument, Dimitri. Know your feelings on the subject and respect it. Growing up in the Karoo, however, has provided me with a different frame of reference w.r.t. hunting.

In any event, do not want to hi-jack my own topic RE jag vs skiet, but to tag on to your scenario of a soft gun case or jacket for support & cushioning: yes, it can work. I have hunted many times with a X-bag on top of the roof as rest. However, not using a shooting frame has the following disadvantages IMO:

1) It severely compromises safety as the gun is now directly adjacent to the roof with not enough clearance (sien James W se post ook)
2) the speed at which you can aim & fire decreases without a stable, fixed gunrest/frame and
3) it does not look as cool :-)


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pietskiet wrote:
Ek hoor die hele skietraam vs jagraam argument, Dimitri. Know your feelings on the subject and respect it. Growing up in the Karoo, however, has provided me with a different frame of reference w.r.t. hunting.

In any event, do not want to hi-jack my own topic RE jag vs skiet, but to tag on to your scenario of a soft gun case or jacket for support & cushioning: yes, it can work. I have hunted many times with a X-bag on top of the roof as rest. However, not using a shooting frame has the following disadvantages IMO:


Piet, although the story of the 7 warthogs is true, my post was meant tongue-in-cheek.

I shoot most of my game off shooting sticks as it provides a platform for more accurate shooting. If you are shooting from the bakkie then I'm all for whatever it is that allows you to shoot more accurately.


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Regarding being adjacent to the roof and not enough clearance: One day, shortly after I had arrived on the farm, Eon (one of the brothers mentioned above) stopped at camp to say hello. I noticed that there was a crack running from the top to the bottom of his front windscreen on the driver's side. He had a small crack/chip in the windscreen and the day before I arrived he took a shot from the back of the bakkie (30-06 resting at the top of the cab) which resulted in the crack running all the way from top to bottom. Perhaps if he had been shooting off a frame the windscreen would not have cracked as the gun would have been higher and further back.


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Dimitri wrote:
pietskiet wrote:
Ek hoor die hele skietraam vs jagraam argument, Dimitri. Know your feelings on the subject and respect it. Growing up in the Karoo, however, has provided me with a different frame of reference w.r.t. hunting.

In any event, do not want to hi-jack my own topic RE jag vs skiet, but to tag on to your scenario of a soft gun case or jacket for support & cushioning: yes, it can work. I have hunted many times with a X-bag on top of the roof as rest. However, not using a shooting frame has the following disadvantages IMO:


Piet, although the story of the 7 warthogs is true, my post was meant tongue-in-cheek.

I shoot most of my game off shooting sticks as it provides a platform for more accurate shooting. If you are shooting from the bakkie then I'm all for whatever it is that allows you to shoot more accurately.



Haha, cool. Cannot wait to get started now.


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Weet julle hoeveel swart strepe ek al op karoo bakkies gesien het van oor 'n geweer sak skiet. Dis een ding om dit elke nou en dan te doen, maar op 'n semi permanente basis is daai raam nodig

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