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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:10 am 
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More manne,

Wil graag weet wat is a regverdige prys die jaar vir:

Blesbok
Springbok
Rooibok
Swart Wildebees
Blou Wildebees

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:21 am 
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Area, dagfooie, geriewe ens speel natuurlik 'n rol.

Hier is wat ek sover gesien het itv Rooibokke en BWB.

Rooibok ramme van R1000 Knypkop tot R1800 (trofee prys gaan van plaaseienaar afhang)

Rooibok ooie van R900 tot R1100


BWB van R3200 koeie tot R5000 bulle.

Daar is ook hmmm... optimistiese pryslyste wat nie vir gewone ouens bedoel is nie.

Groete, en laat weet as ek moet kom jag.

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Ek wonder soms of daar nog plase is waar ek my tentjie kan opslaan en alles selfsorg wees, tot eie drinkwater daarheen ry en dan van die kamp af loop en jou 1 of 2 bokkies skiet en daar in die veld klaar uitmekaar te haal. Net om weer 'n slag te kan "manmens" word. As my seuns saamgaan is dit die lekkerste "bonding time" ons los die land se probleme op (tong in die kies) praat met mekaar oor enige iets en oor alles sonder enige inmenging van tv, selfone en die vrouens wat jou roep om te kom eet.

Ek wonder ???


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Jip, sulke plekke bestaan.

Praat met Jack op 0829732958 - Noord Natal


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Goeie dag
Ons pryse is as volg.
rooibokke R2000 trofee R3200
swartwildebees R3000
blouwildebees R5800
springbokke R1000


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Tammeraai wrote:
Jip, sulke plekke bestaan.

Praat met Jack op 0829732958 - Noord Natal

Baie dankie sal nog vanaand bel


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William007, wanneer klasifiseer jul bv rooibok as trofee?

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Ek sal R5000 vir n bwb betaal as ek n howa saam kry

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Capt. Oblivious wrote:
Ek sal R5000 vir n bwb betaal as ek n howa saam kry
Ja nee hulle is veilig as ons daar gaan jag, behalwe daai een pel van ons, maar sy kop vat ook net met elke 2de maan fase.

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Blesbok - R1200
Springbok - R1000
Rooibok - R1200
Blou Wildebees - R3500

Alles manlike diere.
Dis wat ons maar in die geweste betaal.
SWB ken ek nie.

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Jou pryse lyk vir my meer aanvaarbaar, KalahariKlong. Die oorspronklike vraag handel oor "regverdige" pryse en daardie stelling beteken natuurlik iets verskillends vir elke jagter.


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Ons pryse in die Karoo naby Beaufort Wes area is as volg. Onthou dit is nie eintlik Rooibok wereld nie so hulle gaan maar duurder wees. Hierdie is vir manlike diere want ons jag nie eintlik die vroulike diere nie en daar is geen trofee kostes nie.

Kalahari Springbok R1 100
Impala R2 500 (net ‘n paar beskikbaar)
Rooi Hartebeest R6 500 (net ‘n paar beskikbaar)
Swart Springbok R3 000
Gemsbok R5 200
Blou Wildebeest R5 000
Swart Wildebeest R4 300
Kudu R7 200
Eland (binnegoed uit & kop af) R35/kg
Vlakvark R1 700
Volstruis R1 700

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:55 am 
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Boesman10 wrote:
Vlakvark R1 700


I'm not criticizing, just interested to know why the warthog prices are so high? Is it due to the drought that the farmers don't want them shot? Were there always warthogs in that area or is it like many areas in the E Cape where warthogs are fairly recent "invaders" that many crop/livestock farmers consider to be pests?


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@Dimitri - Vlakvarke is nie eintlik 'n Wes Kaap dier nie. Met die tyd saam het hulle afbeweeg en toe die Port Elizabeth area - Oudshoorn lyn vervuil. Met die tyd saam beweeg hulle Suid en nou kry mens hulle baie in die Mosselbaai omgewing. Hulle beweeg verder Suid en ons begin hulle nou in die Beaufort Wes omgewing kry maar in baie klein getalle. Ek is seker hulle sal eendag in die Kaap rondloop so die paar wat op die plaas is teel nog aan en is in groot aanvraag deur die Kaapse jagters. Ek is seker oor 5 jaar gaan ons hulle vir R500 laat skiet maar op die oomblik is daar nog min van hulle. Hulle geniet nogal die bergagtige area op die 10 000 Ha plaas maar ons het nie binne heinings nie so hulle loop waar hulle wil.

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Thanks Boesman10. A friend of mine has been seeing them on his farm in Harrismith, FS over the last 5 years. He grew up on that farm (he is in his 60's) and there were never warthogs there. Another friend has been seeing them now and again on his farm in Heidelberg, Gauteng. In a few years I think their distribution will pretty much be right across SA.


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Gideon Viljoen ons klas trofee as die dier volwasse is , en horings mooi gevorm, bv by rooibok sal dit nou van 21 duim en meer wees. Ons skiet voorgestelde trofee van die dier. Ja ons blouwildebeeste is maar biekie duur maar ons het hulle op geskiet al. Hulle nou min. Nou is die swartwitpense weer n problem te veel.


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Gideon Viljoen ons klas trofee as die dier volwasse is , en horings mooi gevorm, bv by rooibok sal dit nou van 21 duim en meer wees. Ons skiet voorgestelde trofee van die dier. Ja ons blouwildebeeste is maar biekie duur maar ons het hulle op geskiet al. Hulle nou min. Nou is die swartwitpense weer n problem te veel.
jammer ek hijack en chip hier in want ek het nog altyd verstaan dat "trofee" is wanneer die dier bv. RW maak so vir Rooibok 23 5/8" as ek dit nog reg het
Lyk my ons moet soos Gideon deesdae eers vra

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William007, dankie, ek vra sommer vir die intressantheid, weet dit wissel van plaas tot plaas. Groete

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'n 21" rooibok 'n trofee? Is n 45" koedoe ook trofee?

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william007 wrote:
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Gideon Viljoen ons klas trofee as die dier volwasse is , en horings mooi gevorm, bv by rooibok sal dit nou van 21 duim en meer wees. Ons skiet voorgestelde trofee van die dier. Ja ons blouwildebeeste is maar biekie duur maar ons het hulle op geskiet al. Hulle nou min. Nou is die swartwitpense weer n problem te veel.

Dit maak nie sin nie. n Trofee is n dier wat RW maak, nie n dier wat die boer dink is n trofee nie.

Ek het al dieselfde stel afgetrap met manne wat Knypkoppe laat skiet vir n goedkoper prys en dan as die bok le se die boer nee dis nie n knypkop nie so dis nou vol prys. Wel daai plaas sien my nie weer nie.

Maar dis julle keuse hoe julle die diere wil klas.


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Wannabee trofees vs werklike trofees. Daar is 'n onnodige beheptheid by sommige wildsboere om belaglike horinglengtes sommer as trofee te verklaar. Dis hoog tyd dat daar 'n industrie standaard bepaal word, en dat daarby gehou word. Dan gaan almal weet waar hulle staan rondom wat as trofee kwalifiseer, nie lukraak-duimsuig-sommeropdieplek eie gemaakte trofees nie.

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Ek dink eerder die woord trofee word verkeerd toegepas. Niks fout as n boer verskillende pryse vir verskillende klasse vra nie maar dan moet dit duidelik vooraf gestel word en n trofee is n trofee as dit rowland ward maak.


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Jean Marais wrote:
Wannabee trofees vs werklike trofees. Daar is 'n onnodige beheptheid by sommige wildsboere om belaglike horinglengtes sommer as trofee te verklaar. Dis hoog tyd dat daar 'n industrie standaard bepaal word, en dat daarby gehou word. Dan gaan almal weet waar hulle staan rondom wat as trofee kwalifiseer, nie lukraak-duimsuig-sommeropdieplek eie gemaakte trofees nie.


Daar is so 'n standaard, Roland Ward. As iemand vir my se hy het 'n trofee geskiet aanvaar ek van self sprekend dat dit 'n roland ward rooibok was en nie 'n 21" ram nie.

Ek het self so stel af getrap so paar jaar terug. Rooibok pryse was R1500 (wat alreeds hoog was daai tyd) maar as jy oor 22" skiet is hy dan R2500. My ram het 22 en 1/8" duim gemeet. Ek moes maar betaal :'(

Maar ek het wel geleer daaruit. As die pryslys sulke klasse spesifiseer gooi ek hom sommer dadelik in die vullis drom en beweeg aan.

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Daarom jag ek graag net anderkant die Limpopo rivier. Ek is jammer om te sê dat die boere in RSA maar bietjie duur raak met hul biltong jag pryse. Daar word darem nog goeie pryse vir ons manne gegee in ons buurlande, vir hoe lank weet ek nie.
Pryse soos volg.
BWB Bul of koei R3000
Rooibok ooi R850
Rooibok ram R1220
Eland Bul R12000
Eland koei R40/kg
Koedoe bulle R12000
Koedoe koeie en jong bulle R40/kg

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The farmer is entitled to create categories for different horn lengths and charge accordingly if he wants. If he calls a certain category >21" then its nice and clear. If a farmer call a category "trophy" then all you need to do is ask him how HE defines a trophy. It's not that difficult.

A trophy is an object kept as a memento. In a hunting sense it can be horns, skins, hooves, tusks, tails etc as in "I kept the elephant's tail as a trophy". If horns and tusks measure a certain length then they qualify to be included in Rowland Ward's records of game animals. But SCI also have a record book with different minimum lengths. So do SAHGCA, Boone & Crockett and just about every other hunting association. So who decides which should be the "official standard" and why do we even need one? I disagree with the notion that a trophy is only a trophy if it qualifies for RW.

Just like you ask the farmer to clarify what his prices are you can simply ask him to clarify what he considers a trophy. And then you decide whether you want to hunt there or not.


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