Price of 12ga ammo!!

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I phoned the gunshop near my house to get a price on 12ga ammo. You know, the cheap stuff - 7/7.5 28gr loads that I wanted to use to shoot doves/pigeons over sunflower. I didn't think that I heard the guy correctly so I asked him to repeat the price. R250 per box of 25!!

So I phoned around a little and it turns out that the gunshop near my house is expensive. Other gunshops are charging R170 to R190 per box of 25. Which is cheaper but not cheap. The last time I bought 28gr 7's was 3 years ago and I think they cost me R95 per box of 25.

At the current prices I can't justify going and blasting off 3 boxes of ammo at doves/pigeons in an afternoon. It's just too expensive. I'll just have to spend a bit more to get a slightly heavier load for francolin/spurfowl/guinea-fowl where, one box of 25 is enough for a day's shooting on most trips.

I remember the days when, as a student, I used to work at Die Blou Meul (gunshop) on Saturday mornings to earn some pocket money. I used to get R25 for the morning and every Saturday I'd buy 1 box of 12ga ammo which cost me just R10.
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Sjo stuff is expensive in Jhb... Paid R1500 for a box of 10 boxes in Dec (unless prices skyrocketed the last 2 months) for some clay-pigeon shooting over Christmas period at a leading safari shop in Pta
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Last time I bought I bought a case (cheap stuff) for R890. We're getting smoked, and it's far from over.
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Prices have gone through the roof! A case of RIO 7.5's was R 995 last year March. Apparently they should be in stock soon and the new Price is R 2150 a case!!
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Saterdag 2 kaste ELEY gekoop by Dave Sheer/Pretoria arms vir R1400/kas. Dis nou wel 67mm en nie 70mm nie.
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Reading this thread makes me very glad about the cases of 7.5’s I bought for R780 a case in late 2019.
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It is not only the price for 12g ammo that went up sharply. Have a look at the hunting stuff. For brands like Norma around R1000 for 20 ! S & B about the cheapest at R450 + per box of 20
To go hunting this year would make quite a dent in your hunting budget if you add all the other price hikes.
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Koeëls se pryse is nou naby R1000 of hoër per 100 vir die normale gebruik.
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I buy my 12 gauge ammo for 7 euros for a box of 25 - so R126 for 25. The other day I bought 7.5 for clay pigeon for €5 for 25. Why is it so expensive in SA?

Slugs I buy for €7.90 for 10.
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Methos wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 12:28 pm I buy my 12 gauge ammo for 7 euros for a box of 25 - so R126 for 25. The other day I bought 7.5 for clay pigeon for €5 for 25. Why is it so expensive in SA?

Slugs I buy for €7.90 for 10.
Alles word ingevoer niemand vervaardig meer in SA op groot skaal nie.
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Hierdie gaan nagmerrie wees vir die kleiduif bedryf. Tesame met die eina ekonomie. Ek hoor die mense bespreek dit reeds, maak planne.

Sommige groter klubs voer ook self in en verkoop. Dalk die moeite werd om lid daar te raak met die ietwat beter pryse aan lede. Of die kleiner klubs moet probeer om in bulk vir sy lede ‘n poel aankope by die groter klubs te doen.

Tyd sal leer, maar vindingryk sal ons moet raak.

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Groot uitdaging met ammo is dat Maersk nie meer enige wapenverwante items verskeep nie. Maatskappye raak toenemend moeiliker om wapenverwante items te vervoer. Blykbaar ontvang Durban hawe ook nie meer ammo nie, dit stoot verby Kaapstad toe. Wat dit weer bitter duur maak om in Gauteng te kry.

Van die invoerders se permitte moes op die nippertjie gewysig word om na Kaapstad te gaan, en ons almal weet hoe vinnig die CFR met papierwerk is.

Skiet raak bitter duur.
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Manne die ding begin nog net, onthou by vere is die grootste mark die VSA en hulle het huidiglik niks, ek bedoel da is niks soos in fkol op enige rak nie. Hulle betaal op gunbroker tans R5000 vir 1000 primers en tot $600 vir 8lb kruit, lope het n 12 tot 14 maand backorder. Oor so 6 maande gaan ons dit voel so byt ma vas en koop as jy nou n goeie deal kry
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Capt. Oblivious wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:04 pm Manne die ding begin nog net, onthou by vere is die grootste mark die VSA en hulle het huidiglik niks, ek bedoel da is niks soos in fkol op enige rak nie. Hulle betaal op gunbroker tans R5000 vir 1000 primers en tot $600 vir 8lb kruit, lope het n 12 tot 14 maand backorder. Oor so 6 maande gaan ons dit voel so byt ma vas en koop as jy nou n goeie deal kry
I went onto an American online store and, just for interest, converted to Rands what a box of 25 12 ga cartridges 28gram 7s costs them. Its around R110 for the item I looked at i.e. around 40% cheaper than here (and 60% cheaper than the gunshop up the road from me).

As Captain says, they are out of stock on most items and, if they are not out of stock, customers are limited to 5 boxes. Many SA retailers are also out of stock of the more popular 12ga loads.

So, in a nutshell, in addition to all the other factors driving up prices, demand (especially from the US market) exceeds supply which is likely to drive prices up further.

Time to bring out the .177, .22 and the kettie. Anyone know how to set up a good snare for pigeons in sunflower fields?
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Dis nie net ons Rand wat swak is dis die vervoer kostes wat pryse opstoot. Ek het gister met handelaar gepraat. Waar dit gewoonlik so 5500euro was om n container met n skip te stuur is dit nou 15000euro! Daar is ook nie baie vervoerders wat die papiere het om wapens en sulke goed te vervoer so die wat dit het stoot hulle pryse op. Die covid ding het natuurlik gehelp om net sekeres te bevoordeel.
Eurpose kruit gaan ook goedkoper hier land as Amerikaanse kruit agv minder belastings.
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It's not only us complaining. I copied this post made a few days ago on a US Hunting Forum:
.223 ammo went from $140.00 for brick of 500
Ta $341.00 a brick of 500

& it NOT gonna get cheaper...

Supply & Demand.
Supplies get low
They Demand big Buck$...

Reloading prices are up too... & hard ta find...
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Boys

Ek begin gister so bietjie loer na 338 Lapua doppe, R7400 vir 100! Dit is absoluut belaglik! Ja Cappy jy is reg die dinge begin nou maar eers.

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Wout, toe ek en jy laas week oor daai RPR gepraat het wou ek jou nog sterkte toe wens met die doppe koop en dan gaan jy seker nie eers daai 100 kan vol maak met een blik kruit van R1000 nie. Jy moet somer all out gaan en A-tips koop vir hom
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Capt. Oblivious wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:35 am Wout, toe ek en jy laas week oor daai RPR gepraat het wou ek jou nog sterkte toe wens met die doppe koop en dan gaan jy seker nie eers daai 100 kan vol maak met een blik kruit van R1000 nie. Jy moet somer all out gaan en A-tips koop vir hom
Ja nee stem Siebert, Vra Simon die 300gn A tips gooi baie mooi ;D

Manne ek kan maar net noem dat wat hierbo gesê is in verband met die vervoer koste ongelukkig die waarheid is. Vervoer koste vanaf VSA is tussen 300 en 600% op afhangend of dit container is en of dit gevlieg word.

Dit is ook soos genoem net Kaapstad wat gelieensieerde items inneem, skepe vaar soms 3 - 4 keer verby die hawe agv die weer (word nie verniet kaap van storms genoem nie)

So om die boonste gedeelte en vir Cappie op te som as jy iets wat jy soek en teen redelike koste kan kry koop maar - koeels ens. vrot nie. Dink so daaroor - as jy maar net 2 jaar terug 10 of 20 kaste 12ga gekoop het of 20. Boksies 143Eld’xe bv.

Jy gaan oor twee jaar weer dieselfde sê.....
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Jan

Ons het, toe skiet ons dit uit.... Mens moes 20 kaste ekstra gekoop het. Maar soos jy sê die goed vreet nie gras nie en gaan net nog duurder word!
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Rasmus wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:14 am Jan

Ons het, toe skiet ons dit uit.... Mens moes 20 kaste ekstra gekoop het. Maar soos jy sê die goed vreet nie gras nie en gaan net nog duurder word!
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Is soos met die eerste LD, koop drank om op te stok dan drink ons dit. "Kry" weer iets erens om te bere en dan wil almal weer braai

Ek sien voor Xmas skiet ons almal daai nuwe kruit in die Vitamien houers en Krieke
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Dimitri wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:26 pm I phoned the gunshop near my house to get a price on 12ga ammo. You know, the cheap stuff - 7/7.5 28gr loads that I wanted to use to shoot doves/pigeons over sunflower. I didn't think that I heard the guy correctly so I asked him to repeat the price. R250 per box of 25!!

So I phoned around a little and it turns out that the gunshop near my house is expensive. Other gunshops are charging R170 to R190 per box of 25. Which is cheaper but not cheap. The last time I bought 28gr 7's was 3 years ago and I think they cost me R95 per box of 25.

At the current prices I can't justify going and blasting off 3 boxes of ammo at doves/pigeons in an afternoon. It's just too expensive. I'll just have to spend a bit more to get a slightly heavier load for francolin/spurfowl/guinea-fowl where, one box of 25 is enough for a day's shooting on most trips.

I remember the days when, as a student, I used to work at Die Blou Meul (gunshop) on Saturday mornings to earn some pocket money. I used to get R25 for the morning and every Saturday I'd buy 1 box of 12ga ammo which cost me just R10.
I might be wrong, but a quick calculation proves that the cost it is still very marginal when reloading for 12 gauge. You have to load a minimum of 250 to make a significant difference.

I used imported propellant when doing this basic calculation.
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Killzone

Huidiglik kan mens laai vir R3.80 n rondte. Dit werk uit op R 950/250
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Is dit met ingevoerde kruit en gekoopte hael?
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