Howa 243 standaard

[Dale SH]

I forgot to ask.
Are you using a silencer ?

[vlakvarkbeer]

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[vlakvarkbeer]

Geen silencer en dit is PMP doppe

[Dale SH]

How much clearance is there between your barrel and the stock ?
When you shoot does your barrel rest on the stand or does the front stand support the rifle on the front part of the stock ?
Do you press down on the barrel with your hand while shooting ?
Have you checked for doughnuts in your cases ?

[vlakvarkbeer]

Are you using PMP cases ?
Have you checked for doughnuts ?
Is this the standard Hogue rubber overmould stock ?
Have you checked the clearance between the barrel and the stock ?

Jip dit is PMP dope ek kan voel as ek die punt in n geskiete dop druk kan ek voel by die net druk hy effe vas dan is dit n doughnut.
Die kolf is n standard Hogue en daar is baie gap tussen die loop en die kolf en boute is vas.

[vlakvarkbeer]

Ek hou net die stock vas en raak nie die loop nie , dink jy die Hogue is te flexible.

[Dale SH]

Ok.
So my suggestion would be.
1. Get some "better" quality cases like Norma or Lapua.
2. Dont use Lot 81 - use Lot 85 or S385 if you have.
3. If possible try and borrow another scope to test.
4. Stiffen up the stock with some aluminium rods and epidermix.

[vlakvarkbeer]

Ok.
So my suggestion would be.
1. Get some "better" quality cases like Norma or Lapua.
2. Dont use Lot 81 - use Lot 85 or S385 if you have.
3. If possible try and borrow another scope to test.
4. Stiffen up the stock with some aluminium rods and epidermix.

Ok let me do that and then see how its turn out ,I cant believe that i'm struggling with this gun.

Thanks a lot

[Dale SH]

My pleasure.
The 243 is not the easiest cartridge to load for.
I use 90 grain Accubonds as my "hunting" load and 70 grain ballistic tips for my varmint load.
If I load 100 grain bullets I go straight to S385.

[vlakvarkbeer]

Thanks I will consider that what is your load on the S385 and I see I got a few Lapua that I want to prepaied.

[Dale SH]

With respect I am not in the habit of giving out loads to be copied as there are too many variables at play between rifles and reloading parameters.
I will say this though.
With a 22 inch barrel your absolute top end max pressure accurate node with a 100 grain bullet is predicted to be at +- 2940 fps @ 59000 psi
The mediocre pressure node is predicted to be at 2830 fps @ 51200 psi

Depends on how fast you want to go.

With a 90 grain bullet and one of the slower batches of S365 (NOT Lot 71, 81,83 or 84) you can achieve a top end pressure node of +- 3130 fps @ 57000 psi and a medium pressure node of +- 3020 fps @ 50000 psi with a 22.0 inch barrel

I currently shoot a 90 grain Accubond at 3030 fps @ 50000 psi from from 23.0 inch barrel Tikka.
Works very well for animals up to Blesbok size.

[vlakvarkbeer]

With respect I am not in the habit of giving out loads to be copied as there are too many variables at play between rifles and reloading parameters.
I will say this though.
With a 22 inch barrel your absolute top end max pressure accurate node with a 100 grain bullet is predicted to be at +- 2940 fps @ 59000 psi
The mediocre pressure node is predicted to be at 2830 fps @ 51200 psi

Depends on how fast you want to go.

With a 90 grain bullet and one of the slower batches of S365 (NOT Lot 71, 81,83 or 84) you can achieve a top end pressure node of +- 3130 fps @ 57000 psi and a medium pressure node of +- 3020 fps @ 50000 psi with a 22.0 inch barrel

I currently shoot a 90 grain Accubond at 3030 fps @ 50000 psi from from 23.0 inch barrel Tikka.
Works very well for animals up to Blesbok size.

I see that te book off PMP don't give S385 so my begin weight should be around 40gr -44gr.

[vlakvarkbeer]

Sorry I have look on the net and S385 is on the Sonchem site but not my book.

Thanks

[Dale SH]

http://www.somchemreload.com

Look at their on line data
Remember that their test barrel is 24 inches

[Cobus(Cobb)]

Ek volg die post met belangstelling.

1.Haal aksie/loop uit kolf uit en kyk vir blink plekkie onder op die loop.....alhoewel hy free float, kan
hy raak met die recoil slag....(myne het so gemaak)

2. Daai optel scope sonder 'n naam kan jy afhaal en hou om ringe mee te lap...
Probeer asap 'n nuwe scope, al leen jy net jou pel s'n vir die oefening

3. Het jy nog die winkelrak sneller?? al aan hom gewerk?? dalkies maak hy jou trek en pluk en
onkonstant wees.....(ek glo nie....maar hou in gedagte)

4. Koop by 'n pel so 10 of 20 75gr vmaxe of 70gr Sierra varminters en kyk of dit nie dalk jou loop
beter pas nie.

5. Gee vir pel wat jy weet hoe hy kan skiet, om te skiet...as hy mooi werk, lê probleem dalk by jou,
andersens iewers by die geweer.

Kom gee weer terugvoer

Cheers

[Maroelas]

Behalwe vir alles wat die manne oor jou roer gesê het (wat jy moet na kyk), is die belangrikste ding in die herlaaiproses jou dop. PMP doppe is oor die algemeen swak gehalte, maar in 243Win kan jy maar vergeet! Belê in kwaliteit doppe soos Lapua of Norma.

[Malan123]

Gesels met my op die privaat kanaal dan stuur ek vir jou so paar ligter punte en so paar norma doppe dan kyk jy of dit nie jou probleem oplos nie

[vlakvarkbeer]

Hi almal ek sal maar moet nuwe dope koop en ja ek het daai stuk scope afgehaal , ek gaan weer more skiet met 87gr Hornady hp varminter en het so paar Winchester dope gekry seker nie die beste nie maar beter as pmp. Ek sal terug voer gee .Ek het die geweer uitgehaal en gekyk na enige plekke of merke op loop maar niks dan het ek nog die oorspronglike sneller op waar alles kom met tyd.

Dankie almal ek praat weer met julle.

Malan ek sal met jou gesels dankie.

[Dale SH]

How much of Lot 85 S365 do you have ?

[Cobus(Cobb)]

Hi almal ek sal maar moet nuwe dope koop en ja ek het daai stuk scope afgehaal , ek gaan weer more skiet met 87gr Hornady hp varminter en het so paar Winchester dope gekry seker nie die beste nie maar beter as pmp. Ek sal terug voer gee .Ek het die geweer uitgehaal en gekyk na enige plekke of merke op loop maar niks dan het ek nog die oorspronglike sneller op waar alles kom met tyd.

Dankie almal ek praat weer met julle.

Malan ek sal met jou gesels dankie.

https://youtu.be/AWTAuu-neNo
kyk sommer hierso....
Cheers

[vlakvarkbeer]

How much of Lot 85 S365 do you have ?

DAle only 1 tin if u go back where i started i stated all my tins just look at it and what i must used please.

Thanks

[Dale SH]

Use Lot 85 S365
A full tin will give you +- 150 rounds
Make sure your Winchester cases do not have doughnuts and are prepped correctly.
Load at 67.0 to 67.5 mm TPL
Load 3 cartridges each at 40.0 grains and load in half grain increments up to 42.0 grains
Shoot them in order from lowest to highest and if any of those loads exceed 3150 fps do not shoot the rest.
Look for the load which gives you closest to 3040 to 3050 fps - stop there and give us your data to fine tune.

[vlakvarkbeer]

Hi Dale i will do that . What is the next tin that i can used neer the #85.
Lot 719/19 -0.6
Lot 088/17 0.6
LOT 089/18 0.1
LOt 085/16 -0.6
Lot 089/15 0.8
Lot 091/B18 -0.2
Lot 081/B 14 0.8

Thanks

[Dale SH]

Lot 91 but start at 1.0 grain lower on your start load and do not exceed the maximum velcocity I mentioned in my previous post.
Lot 719 is S335 and is not suitable for your application.
Avoid Lots 81,88 and 89

[vlakvarkbeer]

I just want to get my bearings strait this nou is on a 87gr or a 100gr.

Thanks