Somchem S361 of S385 vir 300 Win Mag

[Manton]

Groete ,
Ek het bietjie gaan rondsnuffel maar nie die spesifieke onderwerp gevind nie
Die manne wat 300WM skiet , het van julle dalk die twee poeiers al gebruik / probeer ? ( vir swaarder koeëls )
Wat is die een .. S361 of S385 .. wat julle uiteindelik op besluit het ? ( Ek weet S361 is n bal-poeier )
Al twee die poeiers is lyk my goedkoper as die meer gewilde Somchem poeiers
Afgesien van prys wat was die redes vir jou keuse ?

Alhoewel dink ek NORMA MRP gaan dalk die beste dryfmiddel ( vir 300WM ) wees - as dit weer beskikbaar is ( wie weet wanneer ? )

[Capt. Yoda]

In die ou dae toe ons nog R232 n blik vir Somchem betaal het was S385 die 300WM se kos, die stadiger lotte het veral lekker gewerk met swaar koels
Vandag met die beskikbaarheid van al die verskillinde kruite gebruik ek N560 maar ek sal nie huiwer om die blik 385 wat nog daar in my kas staan te gebruik in WM nie

[tripodmvr]

Hier is hoe QL die dryfmiddels gradeer. S385 is heelwat voor S361 by druk en spoed. Jy sal ook sien hoekom Kappetijn die N560 genoem het.


Cartridge : .300 Win. Mag.(@)
Bullet : .308, 190, Sierra HP MatchK 2210
Useable Case Capaci: 80.556 grain H2O = 5.230 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 57000 psi, or 393 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

86 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 95,6 76,3 4,94 3037 100,0 57000 11636 1,289 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 96,4 74,7 4,84 3016 100,0 57000 11783 1,285 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 98,1 74,4 4,82 3012 98,6 57000 12128 1,279 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 93,5 74,0 4,79 3009 100,0 57000 11414 1,269 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 98,5 77,8 5,04 3005 97,6 57000 12236 1,286 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 97,0 74,0 4,80 3003 99,0 57000 11754 1,268 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 98,0 73,6 4,77 2989 98,9 57000 11653 1,266 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 98,3 73,8 4,78 2988 99,6 57000 11637 1,286 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 98,3 73,8 4,78 2988 99,6 57000 11637 1,286 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 98,3 73,8 4,78 2988 99,6 57000 11637 1,286 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 100,0 79,3 5,14 2978 99,1 54415 11875 1,297 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 98,7 79,8 5,17 2975 99,9 57000 11172 1,278 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 100,0 79,3 5,14 2973 99,0 54089 11885 1,301 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 87,1 67,9 4,40 2972 100,0 57000 10413 1,278 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 100,0 73,5 4,76 2959 99,4 55268 11582 1,304 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 100,0 73,5 4,76 2959 99,4 55268 11582 1,304 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 99,6 73,4 4,76 2956 98,6 57000 11384 1,286 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 90,7 65,6 4,25 2949 100,0 57000 10329 1,277 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 86,1 67,1 4,35 2948 100,0 57000 10333 1,287 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 86,1 67,1 4,35 2948 100,0 57000 10333 1,287 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 94,7 70,0 4,53 2947 99,5 57000 11024 1,274 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 95,1 70,7 4,58 2944 99,5 57000 11072 1,283 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T 96,7 70,4 4,56 2940 100,0 57000 10491 1,315 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 91,5 70,2 4,55 2938 100,0 57000 10749 1,290 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 95,9 71,2 4,61 2937 99,5 57000 10998 1,283 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 87,9 69,5 4,50 2935 100,0 57000 10660 1,290 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 100,0 72,6 4,71 2934 100,0 55830 10427 1,307 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 90,8 69,6 4,51 2934 100,0 57000 10647 1,290 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 85,7 67,3 4,36 2932 100,0 57000 10693 1,292 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 85,7 67,3 4,36 2932 100,0 57000 10693 1,292 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 89,4 69,6 4,51 2932 100,0 57000 10437 1,305 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 100,0 72,2 4,68 2926 98,3 52440 11538 1,317
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 96,6 72,5 4,70 2922 98,3 57000 10982 1,280 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 93,3 69,3 4,49 2921 99,4 57000 10799 1,283 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 90,3 69,3 4,49 2921 99,4 57000 10799 1,283 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 93,3 69,3 4,49 2921 99,4 57000 10799 1,283 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 100,0 77,1 5,00 2921 98,6 52974 11386 1,307
Somchem S365 92,1 68,1 4,41 2913 100,0 57000 9874 1,304 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 100,0 75,7 4,91 2910 96,7 54269 11365 1,299 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 87,7 66,5 4,31 2910 100,0 57000 10295 1,302 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 90,3 66,3 4,30 2909 100,0 57000 10172 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 100,0 72,2 4,68 2909 98,2 56151 10942 1,289 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 90,3 66,3 4,30 2909 100,0 57000 10170 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 95,4 71,6 4,64 2906 99,9 57000 10568 1,305 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C 100,0 76,3 4,94 2906 98,0 51741 11767 1,359
Accurate 4350 89,6 66,5 4,31 2905 100,0 57000 10146 1,318 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 81,7 66,2 4,29 2903 100,0 57000 10077 1,294 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 100,0 73,9 4,79 2901 100,0 49630 11144 1,355
Winchester Supreme 780 94,2 73,8 4,78 2901 99,5 57000 10567 1,289 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 91,0 68,6 4,45 2896 99,9 57000 10366 1,297 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 94,1 68,9 4,46 2894 98,8 57000 10554 1,285 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 98,5 73,1 4,74 2893 100,0 57000 10249 1,322 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 94,7 67,4 4,37 2891 100,0 57000 9956 1,308 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 97,6 70,5 4,57 2887 98,4 57000 10619 1,284 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 84,3 64,6 4,19 2885 100,0 57000 9783 1,296 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 *T 92,7 67,3 4,36 2881 99,8 57000 10171 1,288 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 91,0 67,2 4,35 2880 99,9 57000 10147 1,288 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 81,5 64,5 4,18 2879 100,0 57000 9683 1,296 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 90,1 66,2 4,29 2879 100,0 57000 10160 1,305 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 100,0 73,5 4,76 2878 99,7 55928 10319 1,306 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 81,2 60,3 3,91 2873 100,0 57000 9680 1,302 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT *C ~approximation 85,5 64,1 4,15 2872 100,0 57000 9856 1,275 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52 81,8 62,8 4,07 2870 100,0 57000 9518 1,306 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 83,4 63,3 4,10 2869 100,0 57000 9822 1,305 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 82,0 60,9 3,95 2869 100,0 57000 9657 1,301 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 82,0 60,9 3,95 2869 100,0 57000 9657 1,301 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 82,0 60,9 3,95 2869 100,0 57000 9657 1,301 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 92,7 66,6 4,32 2866 100,0 57000 9391 1,299 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 93,3 73,8 4,78 2865 98,3 57000 10380 1,297 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C 82,4 61,2 3,96 2864 100,0 57000 9581 1,304 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 100,0 71,2 4,61 2863 98,7 56058 10333 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 80,5 63,7 4,13 2863 100,0 57000 9715 1,295 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 87,0 63,9 4,14 2863 99,9 57000 9946 1,284 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 88,2 64,3 4,17 2862 99,8 57000 10031 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 88,2 64,3 4,17 2862 99,8 57000 10031 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50 83,5 64,5 4,18 2861 100,0 57000 9848 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 85,4 64,3 4,17 2861 99,8 57000 10024 1,298 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 89,1 64,7 4,19 2854 100,0 57000 9751 1,305 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 83,1 63,7 4,13 2854 100,0 57000 9569 1,301 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 84,0 61,3 3,97 2853 100,0 57000 9339 1,287 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 83,5 62,7 4,06 2851 100,0 57000 9443 1,320 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 83,5 62,7 4,06 2851 100,0 57000 9443 1,320 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT *C ~approximation 87,1 64,2 4,16 2849 100,0 57000 9576 1,288 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 85,4 62,8 4,07 2847 100,0 57000 9366 1,319 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 80,2 61,5 3,99 2845 100,0 57000 9364 1,296 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 85,6 62,2 4,03 2844 100,0 57000 9379 1,311 ! Near Maximum !

[Manton]

Dankie vir die hulp en raad

Alliant Reloder altyd die beste ( Waar kan mens daarvan kry om te koop ? )

Norma MRP is beter as VV560 ( double base powder )

S385 gee beter vul ratio met omtrent die selfde spoed as S365
Ek skat dan dat S385 die beste Somchem dryfmiddel vir 300WM is ?

[Cbird]

Ek skiet 180gr Norma Oryx met S361 uit my 300WM met groot sukses

[tripodmvr]

'n Mens kan altyd minder gepaste dryfmiddels gebruik en as dit jou spoedvlak en jagmetode pas, dan is jou tevredenheid die belangrikste. Weet net dat jy met ander dryfmiddels vinniger spoed kan verkry as dit jou mikpunt is. Die beskikbaarheid bepaal in baie gevalle dan wat jy gaan gebruik.