Windhonde, GPS'se, legendes en harthonde

[KAMAKASI]

Ek se weer,daar is meer verskille in n ras as inter ras. It depends what you like personally. There are many breeders,with many hounds.you can go to shows and see many greyhounds then meet the oaks then you can go and look at their set ups. Many tipes of greyhounds,bigger,smaller,heavier and leaner tipes. Horses for courses!(Spelling I had a D-)

[Greyhound.Racer]

Kamakasi
Yes it is a little bit true what you say about the pure breeds and mix breeds between Greyhounds and Greyhounds, but still it is a Greyhound i don't see it as a 'MIX' breed because they are still Greyhounds. It is just the Racing Greyhounds are much PURE a Greyhound than the 'Boer windhond'. Racing stock Greyhounds has a pedigree that can start from 1820, do the 'Boer winhond' have that..?
Where do the name 'Boer Windhond' come from and why do they call them a Boer windhond?
Is it because of the big chest that is almost the same as in Great Dane, or did they cross a pure racing Greyhound with a Boerboel and thats how the 'Boer windhond' start?
And the saying 'a horse for a course' i don't see the meaning of it because we are talking about Hard Core Hunting dogs not horses..
Sorry if i sound a bit harsh, but how can you call a Greyhound a 'MIX' if the mother and the father is a Greyhound, like in my case the father of my puppies is a Racing Greyhound from Ierland and the mother is a 'Boer windhond' so the father is a much pure Greyhound than the mother..

So what i'm saying is that the Boer windhond will still have to wait a few 50 or more generations befor it mite get pure like the Racing Greyhounds and being seen as a pure Greyhound.
Don't worry my English is not so good as well..

[Stephan]

Racer

Die SA Boerwindhond is oor die jare geteel uit skou windhonde en ander vir die Harde Suid Afrikaanse terrein en klimaat en geselekteer vir uithouvermo?, spoed, ratsheid, intellegensie, geaardheid asook gehardheid en bespiering. Die windhond is oor die algemeen ,meer deur boere gebruik vir die beheer van probleemdiere ,en daarom die benaming Boerwindhond.

Die hond is baie baie meer gehard as n baanhond, dalk iets wat in die eeue lange pedigrees verlore gegaan het by die baanhond?

Groete

[KAMAKASI]

50 years ago a lady Mev.Burger imported old Enlish show Greyhound.Then in later years a Mr Darrel Weilbach and many more.Ons praat net van boerwindhonde,dis S.A Boerwindhonde.Honde moet gekeur word deur 3 gekwalifiseerde ras keurders.al is die reun en teef gekeur moet hul kleintjies weer op 12mnde gekeur word.sreekskoue word gehou en dan n wereld kampionskap op boertjie fees bultfontien.daar was al meer as 300 honde by die geleenthiet. Ek weet wa kom my honde vandaan hoe is hul geteel en waar na toe ek streef. Ons het dus geregistreerde suiwer honde by die Suid Afrikaanse Boerwindhond Vereniging,met n voorsitter,sekretaresse,bestuur en lede.

[GREYHOUND]

GR
WHAT DID THE RACING GREYHOUNDS LOOK LIKE 50 YEARS AGO, AND HOW WERE THEY DEVELOPED. A FRIEND OF MINE BROUGHT IN SOME RACING DOGS YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND THE PRESENT SHOW GREYHOUND. WITH YEARS OF SELECTIVE BREEDING THE MODERN RACING GREYHOUND WAS DEVELOPED, LIGHTER NOT SO DEEP CHESTED AND STRAITER LINES, BUILT FOR SPEED. SO THE RACING GREYHOUND ORIGINALLY WAS BRED FROM THE OLD SHOW GREYHOUNDS AND THE BOERWINDHOND IS IN ACTUAL FACT A SHOW GREYHOUNG JUST A NAME USED IN AFRIKAANS AND PROBERBLY BECAUSE THEY WERE MOSTLY OWNED BY FARMERS FOR HUNTING.
THAT THEY WERE CROSSED BOERBOELS AND GREATDANES TO ACHIEVE THE PRESENT DAY BOERWINDHOND IS ALOT OF HOGWASH AND YOU ARE MAKING ALOT OF ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE UNFOUNDED. YES YOU CAN CROSS ANY TWO DOGS AS THEY CROSS THE RACING DOGS TO SALUKIS AND SO ON. SO HOW DID THEY DEVELOPE THE RACER TO GET SUCH A SMALL CHEST, COULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN A (WORSHOND).
PLEASE GR IN FUTURE TRY DOING SOME HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU START MAKING ASUMPTIONS. GREYHOUND

[Stephan]

Van die Hoof kenmerke van SA Boerwindhonde se bouvorm is ,dat hulle groot ,fris en gespierd gebou is, baie kort gladde,fyn hare het, lang dun stert, diep borskas, gebo? rug, lang kruis wat val na agter en sterk opgetrekte voete het.

[Stephan]

Baie goed gestel Greyhound!!!

[KAMAKASI]

Daar is we'll een ding wat racer beklemtoon,dat daar n wanpersepsie bestaan oor boerhonde. Elke 2de ou wat n windhond het se hyt n boerwindhond. Ons honde is baie selektief geteel vir einskappe wat ons belanrik en funksioneel ag. Baanhonde is vinniger as boerhonde,maar vrek as hul jag saam boerhonde. Jy vergelyk nou pierre spies met zola budd!

[Foxhound]

Hallo manne

Lyk my hier is besig om n redelikkke redenasies te begin ontaard

Ek kan net byvoeg om te se dat ek stem 200% saam Greyhound, Stephan en Kamakasi en dan wil ek net een vraag vra :

Gaan dit oor om n hond te kan he wat 10jakkalse of watokal kan vang in een dag of hoe vinnig hy kan sprint vir 100m en dan n dag moet rus voor jy weer kan werk?????????

Ek dink die antwoord is van selfsprekend en voor die handliggend!!!!

Dankie manne en dankie vir julle posts

Groete
Foxhound

[GREYHOUND]

ONE MORE THING.

REFERING TO A HORSE FOR A COURCE, IS JUST A MATTER OF SPEACH, NOT REFERING TO SPECIFIC ANIMAL OR OBJECT. ITS THE SAME AS TRYING TO KNOCK IN A (YSTERPAAL) WITH A PANELPIN HAMMER AND TRYING TO HIT IN A PANELPIN WITH A TWELVE POUND HAMMER. EVERY JOB HAS GOT THE RIGHT TOOL TO DO IT WITH, SO IF YOU COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THE HORSE THING I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THIS WILL SHARE SOME LIGHT FOR YOU, OTHERWISE I WILL TRY EXPLAIN IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. PLEASE DONT BE SCARED ASKING A DIFFERENT EXPLANATION.
GREYHOUND

[Foxcreek]

Greyhound

Ek stem saam met jou, miskien moet jy prentjies teken!

Foxcreek.

[Stephan]

Ek dink ook so, net versigtig wees vir perde, kan dalk verwarring veroorsaak?

[KAMAKASI]

Greyhound racer.

Dit is ooglopend dat hierdie manne ver gaan soek het,na baie honde gekyk het en die ras gekry het wat hul in glo.ander manne wat hier praat teel en jag vandat hul kan onthou en die vorige SA kampion reun kom uit sy stalle.tussen slegs 3manne is daar amper 50jaar se jag. Praat lekker saam,ons wil nie argumenteer nie,ons probeer bou nie breek nie. Ons tipe honde is die beste in die wereld,dis hoe dit is!

[HOUNDDOG]

KAMAKASI

EK IS BLY JUL MANNE IS SO PASSIEVOL VIR JUL HONDE. MAAR JY KAN NIE SE JOU TIPE HONDE IS DIE BESTE IN DIE WERELD NIE...EK DINK VOOR JY NOG NIE TEEN AL DIE HONDE IN DIE WERELD GEHARDLOOP OF GEJAG HET NIE KAN JY NIE SO ONGELDIGE STELLING MAAK NIE? PASOP EK HET N KRUISHOND WAT EK JOU DALK NET MEE PAK SLAE SAL GEE.

GROETE
HOUNDDOG

[HOUNDDOG]

MNR'E EN KAMAKASI


WAT DINK JUL VAN N BAAN X BOERHOND X STEEKHAAR KRUIS? MY ONDERVING VIR JAKKALS JAG IS DIT MY BESTE KEUSE? EK HET BAIE GOEIE SUKSES IN DIE JAGVELD MET DIE KRUISING EN HY VAT NOGAL DAT HY VREK.

KAMAKASI

HOE GEREELD JAG JY ? HET JY PAK HONDE OOK?

GREYHOUND

HOEVEEL JAKKALSE AL DIE JAAR GEVANG?

[KAMAKASI]

Beste Hounddog.

Nou praat jy van honde wat vat,hell steekhare vat nie ... Nie! Like hul kwaai. Ek ken hul taamlik goed en hul is ysters. Die tipe honde waarvan ek praat doen daai werk ook,en hul is so bietjie mooier ook!

[HOUNDDOG]

EK KEN DIE BOERHONDE GOED HET OOK N PAAR VAN HUL WAT GOED JAG MET LANG ASEMS. SAL NET GRAAG HUL BIETJIE TEEN JOUNE WIL TOETS? WANT LYK MY JUL VANG SO BAIE JAKKALSE DAAR?? EK TREK DIT NIE IN TWYFEL NIE MAAR HIER BY ONS IS NIE SO BAIE NIE... GELUKKIG NIE.

[GREYHOUND]

HOUNDHOG
EK HET 145 ROOIJAKKALSE VIR 2009 GEVANG, DIS NET MET DIE HONDE, EN NIE RAAIWERK NIE, ELKE EEN NEERGESKRYF, PLEK, GEWIG ENS.
EK STEM SAAM KAMAKASI, AS EK N SKOON BOERHOND HET WAT SPOED HET, STAMINA HET EN VERAL DIE HARD HET EN SY BOUFORM IS PERFEK HOEKOM WIL EK GAAN STAAN EN HOM KRUIS MET BAAN EN STEEKHAAR HONDE. EK WEET NIE, MAAR AS MY HONDE N JAKKALSE VAT EN HOM NEERSIT EN HY IS DOOD DAN IS HY DOOD EN HY KAN NIE DOOIER AS DOOD WEES NIE, SO HOEKOM AL HIERDIE ANDER KRUISING DOEN AS EK IETS HET WAT KLAAR DIE WERK KAN DOEN. HOU DAN DIE STEEKHARE EN BAAN HONDE SKOON DAN IS HULLE SOMMER RAS EG OOK.
JA N STEEKHAAR KAN N LEKKER JAGHOND WEES EN HULLE SE HULLE IS TAAI MAAR EK JAG BAIE EN MY BOERHONDE IS HARD EN TAAI EN GLAD NIE KLEINSERIG NIE, HULLE SAL NOOIT TERUG STAAN VIR ENIGE ANDER HONDE NIE.
GROETE GREYHOUND 

[KAMAKASI]

Hoor hoor GREYHOUND!

Kerels,hierdie man is n meester en verstaan sy trade goed! Daar is nie n ander honderas wat ditkan reg kry nie. Verstaan my reg,dit gaan nie oor die ras nie,maar we'll oor die spesifieke lyne en tipe hond. Dis voorwaardelik super honde!

[GREYHOUND]

KAMAKASI
SAY NO MORE, THE PROOF OF THE PUDDING IS IN THE EATING, TAKE FOR EXAMPLE YOUR HIGHLY RESPECTED DOG KAMAKASI AKA (THE TERMINATOR) WHO HAS BECOME ONE OF THE TOP DOGS IN THE COUNTRY.HEIL DIE BOERWINDHOND SNYERS.
MIN MENSE SAL VERSTAAN WAAROOR ONS PRAAT AS HULLE NOG NIE DIT IN LEWENDE LYWE GESIEN HET. BAIE BOERE WAT AL SAAM IN DIE AAND GAAN JAG HET KAN NIE UITGEPRAAT RAAK OOR DIE WERKLIKE VERMOENS VAN DIE HONDE. EEN GOEIE VOORBEELD WAS LAAS NAWEEK TOE N JAKKALS NIE WOU INKOM NIE EN SO N 300M ANDERKANT N DRAAD VIR ONS GESTAAN EN KYK HET, MY HONDE HET HOM GESIEN EN TOE EK DIE HEK OOPMAAK HET HULLE OOR DIE DRAAD EN PRESIES REGUIT OP HOM AFGEHARDLOOP EN DIE RES IS GESKIEDENIS, DIT IS GOED WAT N MENS HOENDERVLEIS GEE.
GREYHOUND

[GREYHOUND]

Centuries of breeding have resulted in the most remarkable breed of dog known to man ~ the Greyhound.  The Greyhound?s streamlined body is that of the ultimate canine athlete, which has not significantly deviated since ancient times.  Greyhound or Greyhound-like canines have appeared throughout the centuries in artistry, pottery, literature, and within the tombs of the ancient pyramids. The exact historical origin of the Greyhound is unknown.  Its origin has been thought to be Africa, Greece, Middle East, or Turkey.  We do know that the Greyhound?s historical lineage is greatly rooted in ancient history dating back thousands of years, making the Greyhound the oldest purebred canine.  Some say the Greyhounds date back over 4,000 years ago.

Throughout time Greyhounds have been bred for one thing ~ speed.  Greyhounds are a member of the sighthound family and primarily hunt by eyesight, as opposed to other canines, which use scent.  Greyhounds have the ability to see distances up to ? mile away.  Another characteristic of the sighthound is the instinct to chase.  Greyhounds are noted for reaching speeds up to 45 mph in three strides.  Collectively, throughout history these attributes made the Greyhound an excellent and well-adapted hunter. 

There is much speculation as to the origin of the name ?Greyhound?.  Contrary to what some may think, the word Greyhound does not come from their color.  In fact, there is no real ?gray? Greyhound.  The closest thing to ?gray? is a ?blue? or ?steel? color, and actually it is not very common.  Some believe it stems from the word ?gazehound?, which is another word for sighthound. Other possibilities include from the word ?Graius? or ?Grecian? meaning Greek, the Latin word ? gracillius? meaning slender or slim, the old British word ?grech? or ?greg?, meaning dog, or ?hundr?, meaning hunter.  Whereas, others assert the name simply implies ?great hound?.                 

Regardless of their exact lineage and name derivation, Greyhounds are one of the most unique breeds in the world, recognized for their elegant appearance, grace, gentleness, agility, and speed.  The sight and silhouette of a Greyhound running, full speed, muscles contracted, legs stretched is a rare beauty in respect to the rest of the canine world.  These remarkable creatures have been a symbol of pride and respect for many great civilizations.  The following are just some of the impressions the Greyhound has made throughout history.

The first evidence of long, lean canines resembling the Greyhound appeared in temple drawings in the city of Catal-Huyuk in Turkey.  The temple drawings dating back to 6000 BC depict a Greyhound-like canine assisting a hunter.

Around 4000 BC, now Iran, a funerary vase was made and beautified with the depictions of Greyhound-like canines. 

Greyhounds were the most valuable possession of the Egyptian Pharaohs, adored for their speed, grace, elegance, and loyalty.  Cleopatra and King Tutankhamen had Greyhounds.  Figures of the Pharaoh?s Greyhounds were often carved into the walls of their tombs or mummified along side their masters.  In ancient Egypt, the birth of a Greyhound was often second in importance to the birth of a son.  Entire families would mourn the passing of a Greyhound by shaving their heads, fasting, and weeping out loud. 

The first mention of any canine breed in literature dated back around 800 BC.  In Greek literature, a book called ?The Odyssey? told a story of a man named Odysseus who left home for 20 years.  When he arrived home, the only one who recognized him was his Greyhound ?Argus?, who was only a puppy when he left home.

The Greyhound is the only canine breed to be mentioned in The Bible, Proverbs 30: 29-31.

During the Middle Ages, Greyhounds nearly became extinct due to famine and disease.  Fortunately, priests and clergymen took special care to protect the Greyhounds, and later bred them for nobleman. 

Around the year 900, the King of Wales ordered that the punishment for the killing of a Greyhound was the same for the killing of a human ~ death.

In the year 1014, King Canute enacted the Forest Laws, stating only persons of nobility were permitted to own a Greyhound.

In Britain, Greyhounds were appreciated for their well-adapted ability to hunt and course.  Also, in Britain the ownership of a Greyhound was a symbol of pride and nobility. Hence, the popularity of the Greyhound grew very popular among the elite.

Greyhounds eventually made their way to the United States in the late 1800?s to help control the jack rabbit population.  In 1912, marked the birth of the mechanical lure.  It was not too long after the first track opened in 1919 in Emeryville, California.  In the years to come, Greyhound racing would flourish as a spectator sport. 

The modern day Greyhound still retains all the attributes that made it so treasured throughout the centuries.  Greyhounds are known for their gentleness, patience, and sensitivity.  They have personalities that tend to want to please their families and a tendency to bond deeply with their family.  Greyhounds are one of the most loyal companions.  They are extremely intelligent and have the ability to acclimate to their new home very quickly.  Greyhounds are very clean and do not have a ?doggy? odor like most other canines.  Some can live in harmony with other pets such as birds, cats, small animals, and other exotic pets.   

Greyhounds make the most wonderful family companion and are good with well- mannered, considerate children.  Sharing your life with a Greyhound will change your life in every way.  They will provide you with a lifetime of enrichment.  Through proper care, love, understanding, patience, and encouragement a Greyhound will learn to trust, love you, and form a bond so strong it will last a lifetime. Despite their previous life as a racer, Greyhounds have become valued, beloved members of the family.       

[GREYHOUND]

GR
YOU SAID IN YOUR POST THAT THE RACING GREYHOUND HAVE PEDIGREES DATING BACK TO 1820, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THE COURSING OR HUNTING GREYHOUND DATES BACK CENTURIES EVEN TO 4000BC AND THEY WERE BRED FOR HUNTING AND EVEN TODAY WE ARE STILL FOLLOWING THE TREND OF BREEDING THE DOGS FOR THAT.
SO YES WE CAN DEFINATELY SAY THAT ARE BOERWINDHONDE HAVE PEDIGREES REACHING WAY BACK AND EVEN LONG BEFORE THE 1820"S
GREYHOUND

[Greyhound.Racer]

Greyhound en ander..
Ek het net gevra waar die Boerhond sy naam vandaan kry, dan byt julle my kop af. wie weet danlk weet julle ook nie.. Maaar 'n Worshond het nie 'n klein bors nie.
My 2 Boerhonde is wel nie pedigree honde nie maar vir my is hulle die beste. Die meeste baan honde kom van Pilot af http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=397930 maar ek dink baie skou honde kom van die selfde hond af want wie sal nou op skrif he van honde teelings van 4000BC?? Ek het 'n Steekhaar hond gehaat wat 'n hele klomp Boerhond sal lat snak na hul asem, al was hy nog jonk, ek mis my ou hondjie vrees luk baie..
Julle het mos pedigree Boerhonde van waar af begin die Boerhonde se pedigrees en watse jaar?(dis net 'n vraag)
Dont worry ek ken die Greyhounds se geskiedenis, mar dankie..

HoundDog, Welkom hier op die Forum.
Ek sien jy hou ook van die kruisings, ek is ook maar 'n persoon wat van kruisings hou.
Maar hoe s? Greyhound 'A horse For a Course' of hoe, of was dit yster en pyp of iets..

..Greyhound..Racer..

[Foxhound]

manne elke man se hond sal vir hom die beste wees net soos elke ouer glo sy kind is die beste

Dis goed dat ons almal n passie deel en dit voluit uitleef en beoefen,

Al wat ek se is dat ons positief maar realisties moet wees,jy moet kan erken as n ander ou se hond beter as joune is, en prys daai man en sy hond indien wel so en waardeer die voorreg wat ons het om met hierdie wonderlike spesie te kan werk en leef

Hoop dit verander die denkwyse hieroor

Groete
Foxhound

[HOUNDDOG]

GREYHOUND

BAIE GELUK MET DIE PRESTASIE! AS EK MAG VRA IN WATTER OMGEWING WAS DIT?

KAMAKASI

HOE IS JOU SUKSES MET DIE HONDE JAG?

GR

JA HOU OOK VAN KRUISHONDE , MAAR VAN SKOON HONDE OOK.

GROETE